Posted at 06-15-17, 06:50 pm Link | #
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I just heard about this server 2 days ago and I started playing since yesterday and I gotta say im enjoying alot like the old times so I hope this server lives for a very long time because this is sure to be the best mabinogi server. With that said, I'd like to ask a few questions that im curious about the server..

Content
Will this version of mabinogi be updated? Like the generations after G13 will be added and the content that comes after G13? Will we get this? I dont know if its possible to do that while keeping the old combat system though.. but if its possible, that would be amazing so we get all or most of the content

Fashion
For all the fashionogi's of us that are always looking forward for new fashion items and new pets being added, will you keep adding more fashion items and pets like the official Mabinogi does? and since MabiPro is based on Mabi JP, can we get fashion from Mabi JP as well?

Red Coins
Are red coins dropped more often from enemies with higher CP than your character or do they have the same % to drop with any enemies?

Thanks alot!
Posted at 06-15-17, 08:07 pm Link | #
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Oh, custom content sounds exciting! I know I'll definitely be looking forward for that and the fashion stuffs.

Thanks for replying, keep up the great work! ^^
Posted at 06-16-17, 04:27 pm Link | #
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I vote for getting all clothing to this server too so we can have this server with more content and since fashion is important, i think we should have the most clothes as possible, especially the Astrologer outfit for female please!
Posted at 06-19-17, 08:38 am Link | #
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Shock Crystal x1
Tailoring Manual - Premium Summer Newbie Ensemble (Elf)
Posted at 06-19-17, 07:50 pm Link | #
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Maybe not the commerce partner but the regular maid and butler partners.. im not sure if anyone has asked this before but I havent seen any of them on the server so I think they're not available? so I was wondering if they're planned to be added in future updates?
Posted at 06-22-17, 04:46 pm Link | #
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After being training windmill and reaching rank 5, I was trying to do my G1 to get a chance to go train with the TNN zombies but once I reached the part of G1 where you have to talk to Aeira and shes supposed to give you an armor and a book, she didnt give me anything. I dont remember if she gave you the armor before but I figured at least she needs to give me the book cause I need to get a keyword from it, but tried talking to her many times normally and other many times using the TNN keyword I got previously from Tarlach I think and nothing.

Did I miss something and is that the reason why im not getting this? hope someone can help, thank!
Posted at 06-22-17, 05:10 pm Link | #
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Thank you! I missed that part hehe so I need to wait till tomorrow then
Posted at 06-25-17, 08:09 pm Link | #
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I just opened 10 new gacha, this is what I got..

HP 100 Potion x10
Shock Crystal x2
Japanese Sandal
Swimsuit (F)
2NE1 Sunglasses
Chocolate Chip Cookie of Dexterity x3
Great Sword (Red Blade)
2NE1 Bom Bracelet
Tailoring Manual - Hatsune Miku Outfit
Lotte Sandal (White/Red)

I'm starting to wonder if theres anything good in this gachapon, but has to be, right? right? > <
Posted at 06-25-17, 11:08 pm Link | #
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I just opened 10 new gacha, this is what I got..

HP 100 Potion x10
Shock Crystal x2
Japanese Sandal
Swimsuit (F)
2NE1 Sunglasses
Chocolate Chip Cookie of Dexterity x3
Great Sword (Red Blade)
2NE1 Bom Bracelet
Tailoring Manual - Hatsune Miku Outfit
Lotte Sandal (White/Red)

I'm starting to wonder if theres anything good in this gachapon, but has to be, right? right? > <

Out of curiosity, what's the pattern rank for the Hatsune Miku Outfit?

Its rank 6
Posted at 07-07-17, 06:19 am Link | #
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I love the big variety of pets mabinogi has to offer, especially hoping we get partners sometime soon, and as much as I've heard people complaining about them making things too easy, thats not a reason to not have the pets.

I strongly agree with having AoE pets with their respective effects but restricting players to have a certain number of each pet, I wouldnt say just 1 though, having 2 max should be okay, maybe even 3 but a little risky, so keeping them at 2 max should be okay. I dont know if theres a way to do that but if there is, then I totally support, because having AoE pets is not a problem, the problem is people spamming these AoE effects by having like 10 or 20 of the same pet.

Limit the number of each pet a player can have and the problem will be gone <3
Posted at 07-07-17, 07:50 am Link | #
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Okay I did another 10 gacha...

Blacksmith Manual - Claus Knight Armor
Common Silk x5
Stamina 300 Potion x10
Muffin of Luck x3
2NE1 Sunglasses [Selling]
MP 50 Potion x25 [Selling]
Japanese Shoes (M) [Selling]
USADANGO Boyish Casual [Selling or trading for female version]
Cobweb Pouch
Lotte Sandal (White/Red) [Selling]

I'd like to say this will be my last pull but I know I'll be doing it again soon </3
If anyone is interesting on buying anything on the list, feel free to note Kikyou in-game.
Posted at 07-07-17, 06:57 pm Link | #
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I agree, having a full party just spamming windmill could get you through most if not all dungeons already and that doesnt mean it needs to be removed and it sure doesnt mean its breaking the game. Restricting pets to 2 of each should be fine. We're already missing a lot of content from the game just cause it might break the game, we shouldnt be too scared about what to add or what to not add to avoid breaking the game, because if we keep doing that, we'll end up with a game thats balanced but also empty, adding content is important so the game doesnt become boring after a while. We are already doing great by excluding reforges from this server.

In the end its about how people wanna play the game, if they take advantage of the AoE pets and they're running dungeons so easy, then if the problem is them getting many drops from certain dungeon, maybe restricting how many times you can run a certain dungeon could be an option or just removing the unrestricted pass from shop or at least making the price way higher
Posted at 07-07-17, 09:40 pm Link | #
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To be completely honest, I dont care about AoE effects, what I care is about content, content is important so we can have reasons to keep playing the game but like I said before, we're already missing a lot of stuff that was taken out of this version of the game in order to make it ''balanced'', we already avoided many of the things that could make game too easy, but that doesnt mean we need to avoid every single thing that may be dangerous of making the game easier, if we do that, then we're certainly playing the wrong game cause sadly... no matter how much we remove or dont add, we'll still be missing a big part of the game's content.

However.. back to the AoE pets problem... I dont know if this can be done but maybe if devs could edit the effects so it wont be as ''potent'' or just change the effects the pet gives when summoned and change the effects to something that wont affect combat that much?

Thats just my opinion of course, so if anyone disagree thats totally fine, if more people think AoE effects should be removed completely or not have the AoE pet at all, that fine too ^^
Posted at 07-07-17, 10:02 pm Link | #
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Hello Mabinogian friends!

After I've been doing gachapon a few times and getting mostly crap from it, I wanna make a suggestion to add better gachapon to the server, it could be like adding different types of gachapon, like say.. Bronze, Silver and Gold Gachapon, each would cost different prices, Gold Gachapon being the more expensive one but also having less crap and a higher chance to get better items. Or instead of having the bronze, silver and gold gacha, maybe just keep the one we already have and add an extra option like.. right now its 50 red coins for 2 gacha, then how about adding another option that requires more red coins like 500 red coins for a stack of 11 gachapon? price its higher but it would have a higher chance to get better items (maybe even have at least 1 rare item guaranteed if possible)? I dont know what do you all think?

I really enjoy running around gathering those red coins, I've become addicted to it lol also been buying a lot of them cause I wanted to see how often good items come out from the gacha but no luck so far and I'd like to keep doing it but also want the red coins to be well spent, you know? I cant say I know this for sure but it seems to me like people dont spend coins on gacha since I dont see many items on housing and theres always just like 3-4 shops at dunbarton square and the items I see there are mostly mats, or event items, nothing seems to be from gacha, so I really think having more motivations to spend coins on gacha is needed?

Just a suggestion I wanted to make ^^
Posted at 07-07-17, 10:44 pm Link | #
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In the end its about how people wanna play the game, if they take advantage of the AoE pets and they're running dungeons so easy, then if the problem is them getting many drops from certain dungeon, maybe restricting how many times you can run a certain dungeon could be an option or just removing the unrestricted pass from shop or at least making the price way higher

So your solution to potential abuse of aoe pets if they get implemented, is to basically restrict gameplay in certain areas and/or make access to them more difficult? I mean, this is a prime example of what players who want to actually fight, fear hearing in the future should an attempt to balance an issue such as this. Players with both stats and the skill level to actually earn their way through these dungeons, would be greatly restricted at that point. And people who run dungeons for drops/enchants will be none too pleased at this either.

I'm still against aoe pets, period. If they do get implemented though, there should never be a conversation on how to better balance the game to deal with the potential abuse of them, unless the solution is just to remove their aoe effect or make any mobs affected by it become entirely immune to all other aoe pets for say 3 mins. If you change honest to god gameplay, to balance the pets, you can be hurting the game. If you want aoe pets, i would encourage you to come up with more creative ideas that won't have much if any impact, on regular gameplay.

Well, that was only an option, but editing the effects of the pets is still a better idea if possible to do it. Of course if people dont want AoE effects and dont care about missing content, I guess not having the pets is fine too. If we could have both, it'll be great but I guess cant have it all and we need to decide if we want a really strict balanced game or more pets and more content. I would vote for a not so strictly balanced game so we can get more content and have a fun mabi, after all.. what matters the most is how enjoyable the game is, the experience you have playing it.
Posted at 07-07-17, 11:31 pm Link | #
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Thats true, maybe that would be too much but what about the whole idea of having the option to buy a more expensive gachapon for a higher chance to get something good?
Posted at 07-08-17, 01:13 am Link | #
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I dont see how AoE pets is equal to play with invincibility or cheats, I mean it has potential for it but just having the pets doesnt force the player to abuse them. Thats up for the player. However I know it can still become a problem if more and more people abuse from it. I dont like using cheats or mods to play and dont like easy things (not that this game is hard though, probably the hardest part of the game is the training of skills and even so, it just requires patience) And I mean, I dont mind not having AoE pets or not having the effects, as I said before, but of course having more content will be more enjoyable, but I'm fine with anything that is decided in the end.

But I've been thinking about it and I have another idea.. so please hear it everyone and tell me if its doable or if it still breaks the game.

Having more pets is good, right? and there are some people that mentioned wanting the AoE effects since they have trouble finding people to party with, yes? the problem is, we dont want AoE pets making things too easy by being spammed multiple AoE pets to clear dungeons? then how about this..

Is there a way to place the AoE pets in a different category from normal pets? if so, we can add another option to the NPC that sells pets, called something like ''Special Pets'' or something.. and on that option you get a list with all the AoE pets but you're restricted to own just 1 of these pet type, so every player will just get 1, if after a while you wanna get a different AoE pet, you can just delete your pet and buy a different one.. (unless someone comes with a better idea) but having just 1 AoE pet, even running a dungeon with full party and everyone owning 1 AoE pet, should be okay, right? or still game breaking? Like I said, I dont mind not having AoE pets, im just giving options for those who really want them, you know?
Posted at 07-09-17, 07:47 pm Link | #
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I thought all the problem about AoE pets would be already fixed since Drahan already said it is possible to do what I was saying about making the AoE pets restricted to just 1 for each player.

But after reading everything you guys kept posting... to be fair, I'd like to say that solo play is also part of MMO, you'll always find people wanting to solo content in every MMO you go, be it for that feeling of accomplishment or be it cause the person doesnt like or cant do party play for whatever reasons.

I also get what Drawing is saying about needing AoE pets to make up for the lack of hard mode players, obviously if there are no other players that can party with you the difficulty you're running, having AoE pets would be more important for you than the others, having Selzyr coming and respond to that by calling you weak for not being able to solo hard mode things is a rather unfair response, you cant judge that kind of thing because there are other factors that come into play such as lag and the fact that not everyone plays the game the same way. Thats the reason having those pets as an option would be good.

But still, it would be nice for players like Drawing having AoE pets to help soloing hard mode content, but just controlling it so that it doesnt make it too easy, which can be done by having the AoE pet restricted to 1 for each player, not 1 of each, just 1 total. I dont see any problems with that, I guess it would be a way to keep all players happy, except for the players that dont want AoE pets because they dont want AoE pets that is.
Posted at 07-09-17, 08:29 pm Link | #
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Hello! My IGN is Kikyou, been playing Mabinogi pretty much since the beginning and it was the first MMO I've ever played that I put effort on and dedicate to it for many years. I played on the JP server and NA, I'm still playing the live server since there are a few things I enjoy about it, but I really hate the pay2win things of the game and the fact that I dont have much to do there anymore, so I joined MabiPro with hopes to find things to keep enjoying about this game I love so much.

Been playing MabiPro for a few weeks or maybe already a month and enjoying but havent been able to do much cause im still training, but I'll get to it soon enough hehe
Posted at 07-09-17, 09:37 pm Link | #
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If players only get 1 AoE pet, I dont see it becoming a huge problem like abusing like you say though, but if the majority vote for no AoE pets or AoE effects being removed, thats fine by me, I still disagree with what selzyr said because not everyone plays under the same circumstances, not to mention not everyone who joins the server will be an experienced player, we'll be getting people that are new to Mabinogi and decided to start with this server invited by a friend or X situation and of course these new players that are less experienced may have trouble with situations like Drawing mentioned and we cant just say ''This game isnt for you'' because then RIP servers growth. As much we know population on this server will be low, it'd be nice to increase it if possible to keep things lively as much as possible.
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