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Spirit viseo bronze mirror blade
Posted at 07-16-17, 01:02 am Link | #1
don't let me down boys
Posts: 2147This post does not give any insightful information to explain why we should bother considering this suggestion nor have you bothered to form a thread which allows proper discussion.
Not only this, but annoying people in global chat about it will only make us consider it even less.
If you really want us to consider your suggestion, maybe you should consider putting some effort into it.
Not only this, but annoying people in global chat about it will only make us consider it even less.
If you really want us to consider your suggestion, maybe you should consider putting some effort into it.
Posted at 07-16-17, 04:16 pm Link | #3
i am shocked
Well... It's only fair to understand what you are trying to put in. To be honest, this thread isn't very insightful and quite frankly, I don't understand what you are trying to suggest. Perhaps try telling us what you want the GM's to do, what are the advantages and disadvantages (because you can't just have all good and no bad), and why do you want this implemented.
And I mean, you can't just willy nilly say I want this done or I will throw a fit. That's not really how things operate... So try to explain a bit more, and you might get a much better response.
And I mean, you can't just willy nilly say I want this done or I will throw a fit. That's not really how things operate... So try to explain a bit more, and you might get a much better response.
Posted at 07-18-17, 04:29 am Link | #5
got it. what i am suggesting is; spirit viseos bronze mirror blade. perhaps this picture will aid you on your quest. thank me later
https://gyazo.com/bcc302019dba4d637ed274119358801c
https://gyazo.com/bcc302019dba4d637ed274119358801c
Posted at 07-18-17, 04:36 am Link | #6
yeah, i gotta be honest, this display from everyone but raizoth, bit disappointing. I mean we import clothing, but question someone with an request for a weapon? Don't really need a reason at this point i wouldn't think. Just a 'we'll take it into consideration' type deal is what i'd expect. Unless i'm missing something obvious?
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yeah, i gotta be honest, this display from everyone but raizoth, bit disappointing. I mean we import clothing, but question someone with an request for a weapon? Don't really need a reason at this point i wouldn't think. Just a 'we'll take it into consideration' type deal is what i'd expect. Unless i'm missing something obvious?
1/10 of his messages over the past week ingame in global chat have been about this..none of which have been very constructive.
2017-07-13 20:40:18 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >how do you get a spirit weapon at |34707,46164,52| 2017-07-13 20:42:24 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >viseo's bronze mirror blade at |34707,46164,52| 2017-07-13 20:44:59 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >this is the only weapon in the game worth having as a spirit weapon at |34707,46164,52| 2017-07-13 20:49:03 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you cant spirit upgrade viseos bronze mirror blade at |39292,41493,52| 2017-07-14 01:06:48 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you cant spirit upgrade viseos bronze mirror blade at |23609,29889,402| 2017-07-14 01:07:56 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >how can you live life without a spirit viseos at |23700,29860,402| 2017-07-14 01:11:02 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >until you can spirit upgrade a viseos at |24127,29490,402| 2017-07-14 01:16:46 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you cant spirit upgrade viseos at |24327,29269,402| 2017-07-14 01:22:05 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade? at |23905,29453,402| 2017-07-14 01:26:19 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >i dont have a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |23491,29228,402| 2017-07-14 01:27:41 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you dont know what weapons can be spirit upgraded at |24321,28810,402| 2017-07-14 01:32:45 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >if you cant get a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24477,29950,402| 2017-07-14 01:38:10 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >does it come with a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade? at |23444,29149,402| 2017-07-14 01:55:36 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >why would you want ingots if you cant spirit a viseos bronze mirror blade at |24189,29022,402| 2017-07-14 02:13:16 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >everyone left after they found out you cant get a spirit viseos at |187207,220876,3001| 2017-07-14 02:29:08 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >but can you make a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |261691,325609,3001| 2017-07-14 02:36:37 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >do you think that they will add viseo spirit upgrade? at |249778,325038,3001| 2017-07-14 02:38:54 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >viseos is not at |268448,320409,3001| 2017-07-14 02:39:32 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >but viseos is certainly not listed at |260181,318757,3001| 2017-07-14 02:59:43 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >also add spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |252489,321089,3001| 2017-07-14 03:01:12 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >only if viseos can at |252492,321753,3001| 2017-07-14 16:08:03 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you forgot to add spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24275,29488,402| 2017-07-14 16:12:27 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >until spirit viseos are a thing at |23962,29067,402| 2017-07-14 17:00:08 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you wont be able to do much without a spirit viseos mirror blade at |23276,29973,402| 2017-07-14 17:01:55 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >would an emerald even be useful if spirit viseos bronze mirror isnt an option? at |24076,29720,402| 2017-07-14 17:02:40 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >life without a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade is nothing but despair and disappointment at |24132,29803,402| 2017-07-14 17:54:55 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you have 0 spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |24085,29260,402| 2017-07-14 17:55:38 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >its the best spirit weapon in the game at |24085,29260,402| 2017-07-14 17:55:57 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >there are no weapons worth spirit upgrading at |24085,29260,402| 2017-07-14 17:56:51 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >if you cant ego a viseos bronze mirror blade at |23865,29384,402| 2017-07-14 17:56:56 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >nothing is worth having as a spirit weapon at |23865,29384,402| 2017-07-14 17:58:48 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |23985,29554,402| 2017-07-14 17:59:33 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >pitiful options for spirit weapons at |24149,29527,402| 2017-07-14 18:05:10 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >can you even collect wool in a world with a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade? at |24193,29709,402| 2017-07-14 18:49:57 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >have spirit viseos bronze mirror blades? at |24193,29709,402| 2017-07-14 18:50:54 Channel1 304 Character [Rai] said in global >viseos bronze mirror blade at |24099,29750,402| 2017-07-14 18:50:59 LoginServer 304 Character [Rai] said in global >its the best spirit weapon in the game at |24099,29750,402| 2017-07-14 18:52:13 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >its just not a spirit blade at |24226,29768,402| 2017-07-14 18:52:37 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >to the max level stats of a spirit one at |24776,30136,402| 2017-07-14 18:56:31 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >if you dont also have a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24111,29661,402| 2017-07-14 19:25:44 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you cant ego a viseos bronze mirror blade at |23998,29154,402| 2017-07-14 19:29:46 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >once they found out that you couldnt ego a viseos bronze mirror blade at |23998,29154,402| 2017-07-14 19:30:36 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you are planning to join the cult of viseos? at |23998,29154,402| 2017-07-14 19:32:16 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >join viseos at |23998,29154,402| 2017-07-14 19:32:49 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >we will all go on strike and make wine until you can ego viseos bronze mirror blade at |23998,29154,402| 2017-07-14 19:33:16 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >its the base spirit weapon in the game at |24024,29841,402| 2017-07-14 19:34:57 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >most weapons should able to become spirit weapons at |24018,29633,402| 2017-07-14 19:35:42 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >but its not a viseos bronze mirror blade at |24018,29633,402| 2017-07-14 19:38:22 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >because viseos bronze mirror blade is the best at |24018,29633,402| 2017-07-14 21:01:21 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >what would you need emeralds for if you cant get viseos bronze mirror blade at |24018,29633,402| 2017-07-14 21:01:26 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >to be a spirit weapon at |24018,29633,402| 2017-07-14 21:14:08 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >what is faith is a world without viseons bronze mirror blade at |44674,67171,14| 2017-07-14 21:15:02 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >in a world without viseos bronze mirror blade at |22072,32770,16| 2017-07-14 23:03:08 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >now that we know viseos bronze mirror blades cant be egod at |10727,29949,48| 2017-07-14 23:19:26 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >swords are useless in a world without spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |15599,38671,1| 2017-07-14 23:22:40 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >she doesnt give spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |13160,43791,1| 2017-07-15 00:06:57 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseo bronze mirror blade at |192729,223646,3001| 2017-07-15 09:21:58 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >add spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |255333,326743,3001| 2017-07-15 10:07:49 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >its not like there is a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |252862,320486,3001| 2017-07-15 10:09:46 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >everyone is disabled without a viseos bronze mirror blade at |257998,322887,3001| 2017-07-15 11:10:53 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you cant ego a viseos bronze mirror blade at |252258,321562,3001| 2017-07-15 12:55:09 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you cant get a spirit viseos bronze mirror bladewith it at |99007,89774,401| 2017-07-15 12:56:17 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >its the best spirit weapon in the game at |134009,63819,401| 2017-07-15 12:59:22 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >there is a viseo shaped hole in my viseo shaped heart at |24077,29158,402| 2017-07-15 13:00:48 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >what good is a custom in a world without spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24235,28694,402| 2017-07-15 13:13:04 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >if i cant even carry a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24087,29609,402| 2017-07-15 13:24:00 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >with no spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24115,29371,402| 2017-07-15 13:25:09 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >viseos are the best spirit weapon in the game at |24130,29309,402| 2017-07-15 13:27:27 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >without the option to use viseos bronze mirror blade at |24182,29097,402| 2017-07-15 13:28:56 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >its by far the best spirit weapon in the game at |24243,29347,402| 2017-07-15 13:31:10 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >without spirit viseos bronze mirror blades activity is declining at |24243,29347,402| 2017-07-15 13:34:31 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >is there no sanctuary from this hell of a world that lacks spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24277,29311,402| 2017-07-15 13:40:50 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >will there be a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade? at |24001,28775,402| 2017-07-15 13:50:29 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >but viseos is better at |24051,29355,402| 2017-07-15 13:57:51 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >itll be hard to resolve any sort of conflict without a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24051,29355,402| 2017-07-15 14:08:21 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >what good is a wolf without spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |24052,29919,402| 2017-07-15 14:50:33 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >failure is much more common withour spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24053,29791,402| 2017-07-15 16:04:30 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you cant get a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade with them at |176024,199438,3001| 2017-07-15 16:05:35 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >can you buy a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade with real money? at |206073,256496,3001| 2017-07-15 16:06:21 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >the best spirit weapon in the game at |227486,297243,3001| 2017-07-15 16:11:26 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >what good is a dye without a spirit viseos at |254589,318699,3001| 2017-07-15 17:37:58 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >after not being able to acquire a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |260917,323718,3001| 2017-07-15 17:42:00 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >life without spirit viseos bronze mirror blades is not worth living at |260986,323795,3001| 2017-07-15 17:46:31 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >reality is crumbling without spirit viseos bronze mirror blades holding it together at |260986,323795,3001| 2017-07-15 17:54:51 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >without a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade? at |260986,323795,3001| 2017-07-15 17:55:23 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >its the best spirit weapon in the game at |260986,323795,3001| 2017-07-15 17:56:03 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >#1 spirit weapon at |260986,323795,3001| 2017-07-15 18:30:13 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >whats the point in mastering sword mastery without a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |257192,325584,3001| 2017-07-15 18:51:52 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >why even joust in a world without spirit viseo bronze mirror blades at |266957,325408,3001| 2017-07-15 19:07:22 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >viseos is OP with just one at |263913,322160,3001| 2017-07-15 19:08:40 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >i cant go on without a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |263913,322160,3001| 2017-07-15 19:43:13 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >everything is hard without spirit viseo bronze mirror blades at |273533,324933,3001| 2017-07-15 20:09:16 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >are there really any winners in a world without spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |274982,324579,3001| 2017-07-15 20:53:42 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |246022,319329,3001| 2017-07-15 20:54:16 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >it is our destiny to live in a world with spirit viseo bronze mirror blades at |246022,319329,3001| 2017-07-15 20:58:47 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >this family is going on hunger strike until spirit viseo bronze mirror blades are a thing at |266501,323244,3001| 2017-07-15 21:00:58 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >but was there a spirit viseo bronze mirror blade? at |265889,323780,3001| 2017-07-15 21:05:46 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >but only if you provide me 12 of your finest spirit viseo bronze mirror blades at |265889,323780,3001| 2017-07-15 21:16:03 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |85515,102433,35011| 2017-07-15 21:16:51 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |80075,109393,35011| 2017-07-15 21:18:37 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |71946,120266,35011| 2017-07-15 21:18:59 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >how many sales do i have to pull to get a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |71773,119690,35011| 2017-07-15 21:21:00 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >does he know anything about spirit viseos bronze mirror blades? at |73072,130739,35011| 2017-07-15 21:22:48 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >are willing to accept an item with the same stats as a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |73934,130544,35011| 2017-07-15 21:24:35 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >they dont know its the strongest spirit weapon in the game yet at |81226,125391,401| 2017-07-15 21:28:33 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >which step brings us to spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |81452,125191,401| 2017-07-15 21:29:49 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >or make a diverse selection of spirit weapons available that perform specific niche functions at |81452,125191,401| 2017-07-15 21:30:04 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade for life at |81452,125191,401| 2017-07-15 21:31:06 House 304 Character [Rai] said in global >no spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |77637,122643,401| 2017-07-15 21:33:24 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blades coming soon at |85578,102752,401| 2017-07-15 21:40:32 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |166055,169320,3001| 2017-07-15 21:43:53 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >and adding spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |166090,169308,3001| 2017-07-15 21:46:33 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >he is talking about spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |162356,197385,3001| 2017-07-15 22:07:57 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >do they sell spirit viseos bronze mirror blades? at |259300,318426,3001| 2017-07-15 22:30:35 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >he is working on spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |257621,321230,3001| 2017-07-15 23:42:39 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |53146,42265,14| 2017-07-16 12:07:29 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >if i had a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |42627,36006,14| 2017-07-16 12:11:28 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >i am willing to accept a regular viseos bronze mirror blade with the stats of a max level spirit at |37233,39623,14| 2017-07-16 12:11:33 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >viseos bronze mirror blade at |37233,39623,14| 2017-07-16 12:13:23 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >so 600$ for a spirit viseos mirror blade at |120676,75206,401| 2017-07-16 12:14:24 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >but without rebirth coupons and spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |26400,25200,402| 2017-07-16 13:04:52 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade? at |24117,29647,402| 2017-07-16 13:27:04 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >cant get spirit viseos at |100291,81130,401| 2017-07-16 13:55:16 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >did you find out how to get a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade? at |23357,6281,35020| 2017-07-16 21:27:18 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >did they add spirit viseos bronze mirror blades yet? at |98771,89364,401| 2017-07-16 21:46:08 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade? at |82029,120897,401| 2017-07-17 02:25:36 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >what good is a hetero kite shield without a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |81785,122098,401| 2017-07-17 02:29:14 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >what good is giant val in a world without spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |81905,122204,401| 2017-07-17 16:12:27 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >without spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |24236,29415,402| 2017-07-17 19:54:04 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >they will be gone once they figure out there is no spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24095,29860,402| 2017-07-17 19:55:07 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24049,29889,402| 2017-07-17 20:07:08 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >ill hook you up with the finest spirit viseos bronze mirror blade in all of the lands at |23964,29934,402| 2017-07-17 20:19:43 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >when spirit viseos bronze mirror blades are around at |23813,29935,402| 2017-07-17 20:32:12 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade is much better at |23813,29935,402| 2017-07-17 22:12:22 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >i brought the spirit viseos bronze mirror brigade back at |24004,29967,402| 2017-07-17 22:14:29 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >with no spirit viseos bronze mirror blades at |24004,29967,402| 2017-07-17 22:43:40 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global > you cant ego a viseos bronze mirror blade at |24004,29967,402| 2017-07-17 23:03:38 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >you cant get a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24004,29967,402| 2017-07-17 23:14:27 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24103,29802,402| 2017-07-17 23:55:38 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >if there isnt any spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24103,29802,402| 2017-07-18 00:31:09 Coordinator 304 Character [Rai] said in global >every outfit is a ninja outfit when paired with a spirit viseos bronze mirror blade at |24103,29802,402|
I don't think that my response is quite unexpected.....
that isn't to say we won't take it into consideration, I just would much prefer he give constructive comments instead..
Posted at 07-18-17, 06:07 am Link | #8
aight mang ill write a dissertation about it
Posted at 07-18-17, 07:55 am Link | #9
Rai Rai
GM Drahan
Mabi - 355
July 18th, 2017
An in-depth analysis of the impact and challenges of Spirit Viseo's Bronze Mirror Blade
Though the call for this fine addition has been loud, there has been resistance from the administrative team regarding the implementation of Spirit Viseo's Bronze Mirror Blade into Mabi Pro. The aim of this essay is to make a convincing case as to how this may make Mabi Pro a more enjoyable service for it's members as well as, address the potential technical challenges it may pose.
The most obvious question that must be answered when considering a new addition is of course, why? Currently, there are -very- limited options when it comes to choosing a spirit weapon. Outside of weapon type (Swords/Blunts/Bows/Wands/ETC) there is no diversity of purpose. Especially regarding melee weapons, upon evaluating the stats one will find they are all nearly identical. This leaves the user to choose based solely on aesthetics or taking the objectively superior option. Adding spirit weapons with niche functions such as; Viseo's Bronze Mirror Blade, Machete, Hooked Cutlass would allow the user to make a choice that is reflected not only aesthetically but also in their use of the weapon.
Each of the weapons mentioned performs a unique function with positive and negative aspects. They are very good at what they do and not much good at anything else. Yet, allowing players to make this decision about how their character will interact with the game opens up many more viable paths to success, each determined by individual preference and playstyle. Mabinogi was a game developed to emphasize the expressive element of MMOs. Having gameplay be limited to a one dimensional linear progression is counter to the purpose for which the game was created.
In regards to development, unlike current weapon choices, there are several routes to take. The most simple likely being to recycle any of the current spirit weapons data and replace the values with those of the desired weapon. This of course means that the method for obtaining these weapons would need to be different and it may be difficult to prevent users from obtaining a second spirit weapon. Another option would be to seek out the patch which contained the items you wish to add. This could potentially be less work if the files are readily available though compatibility may be an issue. The most laborious option is obviously to recreate the files from nothing. The best route is unclear and depends heavily upon programming knowledge, and knowledge of Mabinogi's specific files.
The weapons mentioned were all released in the North American release of the version Mabi Pro currently runs which is likely the server most users are familiar with. The only reason Spirit Viseo's Bronze Mirror Blade is not already in the game is because the server is hosting foreign files. In this sense, the addition of these items does not conflict with the stated purpose of the server. That all being said, Mabi Pro is a private server with the goal of being a nostalgic recreation of the game in stagnant state of development. Despite these additions being an undeniable improvement to gameplay for the server, these changes may also be counter to the motivations of current players.
To conclude, while there are various options for implementing these game improving changes, it will be important to weigh the decision using your own vision for the server with the feelings of users. This is your time and your investment.
GM Drahan
Mabi - 355
July 18th, 2017
An in-depth analysis of the impact and challenges of Spirit Viseo's Bronze Mirror Blade
Though the call for this fine addition has been loud, there has been resistance from the administrative team regarding the implementation of Spirit Viseo's Bronze Mirror Blade into Mabi Pro. The aim of this essay is to make a convincing case as to how this may make Mabi Pro a more enjoyable service for it's members as well as, address the potential technical challenges it may pose.
The most obvious question that must be answered when considering a new addition is of course, why? Currently, there are -very- limited options when it comes to choosing a spirit weapon. Outside of weapon type (Swords/Blunts/Bows/Wands/ETC) there is no diversity of purpose. Especially regarding melee weapons, upon evaluating the stats one will find they are all nearly identical. This leaves the user to choose based solely on aesthetics or taking the objectively superior option. Adding spirit weapons with niche functions such as; Viseo's Bronze Mirror Blade, Machete, Hooked Cutlass would allow the user to make a choice that is reflected not only aesthetically but also in their use of the weapon.
Each of the weapons mentioned performs a unique function with positive and negative aspects. They are very good at what they do and not much good at anything else. Yet, allowing players to make this decision about how their character will interact with the game opens up many more viable paths to success, each determined by individual preference and playstyle. Mabinogi was a game developed to emphasize the expressive element of MMOs. Having gameplay be limited to a one dimensional linear progression is counter to the purpose for which the game was created.
In regards to development, unlike current weapon choices, there are several routes to take. The most simple likely being to recycle any of the current spirit weapons data and replace the values with those of the desired weapon. This of course means that the method for obtaining these weapons would need to be different and it may be difficult to prevent users from obtaining a second spirit weapon. Another option would be to seek out the patch which contained the items you wish to add. This could potentially be less work if the files are readily available though compatibility may be an issue. The most laborious option is obviously to recreate the files from nothing. The best route is unclear and depends heavily upon programming knowledge, and knowledge of Mabinogi's specific files.
The weapons mentioned were all released in the North American release of the version Mabi Pro currently runs which is likely the server most users are familiar with. The only reason Spirit Viseo's Bronze Mirror Blade is not already in the game is because the server is hosting foreign files. In this sense, the addition of these items does not conflict with the stated purpose of the server. That all being said, Mabi Pro is a private server with the goal of being a nostalgic recreation of the game in stagnant state of development. Despite these additions being an undeniable improvement to gameplay for the server, these changes may also be counter to the motivations of current players.
To conclude, while there are various options for implementing these game improving changes, it will be important to weigh the decision using your own vision for the server with the feelings of users. This is your time and your investment.
Posted at 07-18-17, 02:18 pm Link | #10
yeah, i gotta be honest, this display from everyone but raizoth, bit disappointing. I mean we import clothing, but question someone with an request for a weapon? Don't really need a reason at this point i wouldn't think. Just a 'we'll take it into consideration' type deal is what i'd expect. Unless i'm missing something obvious?
The main point is that he's asking to be able to make a spirit one.
@Rai, your last comment was more constructive, you proposed to add more spirit weapons and not only the one you like. It was already asked several times and I don't know how easy it is to make more spirit weapons available but, in any case, it won't go faster if you spam for that to happen.
Adding new features can take a long time, spirit weapons is not the priority and could simply go in the next community poll.
Now that you made a proper suggestion, stop asking and learn to wait until it is being considered by GMs.
Posted at 07-18-17, 04:41 pm Link | #11
yeah, i gotta be honest, this display from everyone but raizoth, bit disappointing. I mean we import clothing, but question someone with an request for a weapon? Don't really need a reason at this point i wouldn't think. Just a 'we'll take it into consideration' type deal is what i'd expect. Unless i'm missing something obvious?
1/10 of his messages over the past week ingame in global chat have been about this..none of which have been very constructive.
I don't think that my response is quite unexpected.....
that isn't to say we won't take it into consideration, I just would much prefer he give constructive comments instead..
I'd say your response was fairly dignified tbh, and yes i feel along the same ways about constructive comments. I just dislike the thought of seeing people jump into a thread to basically tell a guy no, or tell him off, where the only solid ground is he just spams an in game chat about it. Yeah, it can be annoying, if it's that annoying the average player can put him on the ignore list. With all the requests i've seen, not counting the ones i don't look at, this request just seemed fairly straightforward, if not presented in a frustrating manner. For that reason, i personally think, other than the GMs who have to deal with the mess, this matter should have just been handled more simply.
Anyway, dragging it off topic in my attempts to clarify myself. I'm neither for or really against the viseo blade. There are plenty of other fashion requests and/or additions on here. I don't honestly know any functionality of the viseo, wiki doesn't say much other than stats, but it seems to be no more major than some of the other requests, so i'll just let the matter slide by on general consensus, or mod consensus.
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Posted at 07-18-17, 05:49 pm Link | #12
In a private server, especially in a community the size of MabiPro, the conduct of a player will definitely impact an administrator's decisions on what said player is trying to suggest. The fact is that Raizoth's conduct has been negative in terms of their continuous spam of global regarding their request, along with their attitude towards other players. They also continuously seek to gain attention by targeting other players and insulting them on global chat. If more people who have a better reputation seek to add this item, then why not? But currently there is only one person, and that person does not deserve to see what they want implemented due to their behavior. They may have added their "reasoning" through a wall of text like the staff wanted, but that was only after leaving worthless messages and responses like, "don't let me down boys" and "i am shocked". Regardless, Drahan has already given their input and the implementation of smaller items like the one they are suggesting seem to be of a low priority anyway.
Posted at 07-18-17, 06:03 pm Link | #13
See. Now we're getting somewhere... Though I'm not exactly sure why we would want to add a spirit weapon into the Mirror Blades because well.. They just don't seem to be something that should be spirited, I guess? Then again, I'm not the type to put spirit weapons in the first place. Lol.. Just my opinion... (Not like it matters here because this isn't my thread... xD)
With that said, I have to agree with what Red said here; "Now that you made a proper suggestion, stop asking and learn to wait until it is being considered by GMs." Only because yeah. Now that we see your point being said here, Rai, you have to learn to be a little more patient with the GMs. They're working hard to keep MabiPro up and alive like it is today. They're working hard for your enjoyment on MabiPro. Spamming things on Global chat or even just pushing the issue elsewhere won't get anyone anywhere. Being frustrated, or even just pushy because you're not getting what you want your way isn't going to get you far either. Just explain yourself once, preferably here on the forums, and then just sit with your hands in your pocket until further instruction or more detail if needed.
Anyway. I've said my spill here. I wish the best of luck to you, Rai. Hopefully the GMs will now take your idea into consideration, but don't expect it to happen anytime soon because I'm sure they're busy dealing with other things. Things such as a life, school, or even families because the GMs are just as human as we all are and can only do so much in so little time.
With that said, I have to agree with what Red said here; "Now that you made a proper suggestion, stop asking and learn to wait until it is being considered by GMs." Only because yeah. Now that we see your point being said here, Rai, you have to learn to be a little more patient with the GMs. They're working hard to keep MabiPro up and alive like it is today. They're working hard for your enjoyment on MabiPro. Spamming things on Global chat or even just pushing the issue elsewhere won't get anyone anywhere. Being frustrated, or even just pushy because you're not getting what you want your way isn't going to get you far either. Just explain yourself once, preferably here on the forums, and then just sit with your hands in your pocket until further instruction or more detail if needed.
Anyway. I've said my spill here. I wish the best of luck to you, Rai. Hopefully the GMs will now take your idea into consideration, but don't expect it to happen anytime soon because I'm sure they're busy dealing with other things. Things such as a life, school, or even families because the GMs are just as human as we all are and can only do so much in so little time.
Posted at 07-18-17, 09:59 pm Link | #14
i dont believe you
Posted at 07-20-17, 05:14 pm Link | #15
While i don't really like the way Rai has become a meme with this whole Mirror Blade thing i do really like the idea of new spirits as well. The Goddess Blade(?) that is also sold by Edern would be another example i think since two hand swords are fairly limited in spirit-able weapons and i'm sure there are more from a lot of events and stuff that could really make a lot of neat spirit weapons. I don't really have a list mainly because i'm not sure what's all exactly available in this version but i do support the idea of an increase in spirit weapon choices.
Posted at 07-21-17, 02:56 am Link | #16
i dont believe you
Believe what you wish, Rai. I'm not asking you or anyone here for that matter on believing what I say... Though I do strongly suggest that you fix that attitude of yours, or one of the GM's might get a hold of you. Choice is yours.
Posted at 07-21-17, 06:10 am Link | #17
I'm fine with Spirit Viseo Blade becoming a thing, only if it has the same ego stats as a Dagger. It has the same base stats and upgrades as a dagger so it seems fair to me.
The spirit stats on it in live are only there because it isn't a vendor item so it's much harder to maintain in terms of durability, but also because Rai said in global chat he only wanted to spirit viseo's because the stats for it are OP.
That way when he doesn't spirit it because the stats are what they should be, we can safely all ignore any and all of his future requests.
The spirit stats on it in live are only there because it isn't a vendor item so it's much harder to maintain in terms of durability, but also because Rai said in global chat he only wanted to spirit viseo's because the stats for it are OP.
That way when he doesn't spirit it because the stats are what they should be, we can safely all ignore any and all of his future requests.
Posted at 07-21-17, 07:20 am Link | #18
I'm fine with Spirit Viseo Blade becoming a thing, only if it has the same ego stats as a Dagger. It has the same base stats and upgrades as a dagger so it seems fair to me.
The spirit stats on it in live are only there because it isn't a vendor item so it's much harder to maintain in terms of durability, but also because Rai said in global chat he only wanted to spirit viseo's because the stats for it are OP.
That way when he doesn't spirit it because the stats are what they should be, we can safely all ignore any and all of his future requests.
The spirit stats on it in live are only there because it isn't a vendor item so it's much harder to maintain in terms of durability, but also because Rai said in global chat he only wanted to spirit viseo's because the stats for it are OP.
That way when he doesn't spirit it because the stats are what they should be, we can safely all ignore any and all of his future requests.
I actually didn't know that little tidbit, or tidbits as it were. I just glanced at the stats on the wiki, didn't check ego growth, and took the weapon as a joke. And yeah, whole OP thing... well i stand on the nay side of that ship.
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