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Pets have stat ups based on age, meaning one has to plan out a pet if they wish it to be anything other than Inventory Space or a quick Mount. This can be a problem for people who can find themselves busy at a moments notice, and while this isn't a problem in live with pet Rebirths, we don't have that option here. So if you mess up a pet, it's done. If something IRL kept you from playing for 2-3 weeks or longer, just as you bought your pet, named it, and set off to make it strong or have the most MP for your needs or something, that's it, there's nothing you can do. This problem can be increased with pets that have level up ages of 3-4 weeks into their life instead of the first two. (Being the best for their stats). So I propose not Rebirths, but potions, either player made or huge Red Coins sinks, to let you reset a pets age and level back to 1 (not touching total level) and pots as well to set a pets Age ahead or back. This allows you to be more flexible with leveling a pet if you want to, and even keep a companion bonuses if you wanted it, but all at a cost.

We have a handful of NPCs within the game that can talk to pets, and pets can do PQs, but they obtain no gold from it, just the exp. Perhaps we could see the introduction of Pet only dungeons and PQs rewarding 'hefty' exp for their work, introducing a new aspect of play to the game. (Similar to that old SMT Imagine game that shut down a long time ago and their Ace runs). This can also flesh out the world a little bit more, with more animals around the world instead of the...1 or 2 we currently have.

So, Synthesis is a neat life crafting skill for Alchemy. It has two types. RNG and Fixed items. RNG is...there's no real fixing that. I don't even want to think about how to even START at fixing that. But fixed items? This needs to be touched up on. There's very little you can make with it, and the few things you can aren't all that useful, or ask for items that you'd rather not put into them for what you're getting out. To top things off, if items were added to this type of crafting, they'd be plagued with terrible item 'grades' anyway if they were gear.

Look at these grades! https://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Synthesis_Grades They're terrible! The negatives are almost always higher than the positives. None of this is based on rank, and that's fine, but the negatives are god awful. I do like that they're there, but not at the high rate they currently are. (This can also somewhat fix RNG synth a little too indirectly).

Here's the list of items that can be made, some of which aren't even in our version and were implemented later. https://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Synthesis_Fixed_Recipes_List
This is terrible and small. It's not excusable either. Alchemy has been around for a long time on live, and this skill was NEVER shown any love. It's forever this skill that you use to dupe a few items here and there and nothing more. The one SM based around it isn't even that great due to the heavy RNG with low rates. (I mean, I like it but I can see how awful it feels)

Now, I'm not a game balancer despite how much I throw out ideas left and right. I'm an Ideas guy, and while those are a dime a dozen, it's still worth something to see what sticks in peoples heads. A small few others around at the time of making this agree a bit that Synthesis is pretty...not great. Expanding this list and changing some of the items needed for some of the items currently ending would be a great start!

Metal Conversion on the other hand, I don't have as much to say. It seems that as you advance in the ranks, the other types of side Ore, Zinc, Tin, and Nickle, become unobtainable, with only Nickle being obtainable at rank 1, and the other two never coming up again. I'm not even sure if this can be fixed, and if anything there should be another way to get these ores.

Yes/no. Depending on if you guys can make a different version of those pots. Late game some folks can farm pots like it's nothing, so increasing the size of 50s-100s outside of pot making (mob drops) would be silly and wouldn't really increase the value of pot making all that much (It would, but it wouldn't be as good as if it was just the ones made with pot making)

Yes, duh? Heavily. The alchemist community has sort of begged for this for a while. I think there might have been like, 1-3 people who didn't want this? I'm not sure why this is a poll question at this point.

Why is this even a poll? 0 People like this feature that aren't memeing or saying they do to try and prove this comment wrong. I have never once heard nor seen nor met a single person in this game that has liked this about summon caps.

Wind blast needs more than a (not even that large) damage increase. Currently it's .8 second for 20-60dmg, is the only offensive wind alch skill, and has a 45sec cooldown if you use it more than 3 times (60-180dmg) Live has a 7 second cooldown and 0 sec load time. In the time it takes to get off cooldown + start said cooldown, you could use wind blast (going to account for actually using the skill) 6-8 times(400-1200dmg). Live also scales with SP. Let's cut the cooldown time if you spam wind blast to 15 seconds and still up the dmg a good bit. (Maybe also make wind type cylinders increase the amount of wind blast it takes to trigger cd by 2 so they can cast it 5 times?)

Sure..? I'm not sure what this accomplishes really. Range suffers from server desync, not really people being able to see the number, but why not? So long as by flash you don't mean the same flash that happens for critical hits with that god awful option turned on, and more so that the color flashes.

(All of which would be tag based and thus retroactive)
Currently, Cylinders differ largely in the dmg values they add or remove for each of the four elements of alchemy and upgrades. Overall, this largely only effects the three damaging skills, Flame Burst, Heat Buster, and Water Cannon. There are a few other things like frozen blast times and rain cast maybe but ultimately these are largely ignored or not even known.

I propose that cylinders take it a step further to vary them up even more so that damage isn't the final deciding factor all the time and will add to what makes alchemy alchemy, utility and thinking for the situation at hand.

Water type Cylinders: Based on the Tier (Water being T1 and Tidal Being T2 with The Tower Water being T1 for balance reasons) should increase the base damage of any alchemy skill (before calc) if used/hit within 200 range, deal 5%-10% more dmg based on which tier, but lower damage by 4%-8% if used/hit at 75% of skills max range. Also, based on Tier, frozen blast base chance +2%-4% to work. Yes, this one is a a somewhat damage buff but it still has a draw back and makes you have to think. The frozen blast buff is just there to add to the slight increase of time. (I would love something that isn't just a dmg increase but I cannot think of anything, please suggest.)

Wind Type Cylinders: Based on the Tier (Wind being T1 and Hurricane being T2 with a potential Tower being T1 for balance reasons) should increase the base max range of any alch skill by 250-350. It should also increase the angle of frozen blast by a base of 3-6 before any upgrades. This one has some more that will be talked about in skill changes as well.

Clay type Cylinders: Based on the Tier (Clay being T1 and E.quake being T2 with a potential Tower being T1 for balance reasons) would add +10-25dmg at the end of all calculation, ignoring defensive values and skills. This one has some more that will be talked about in skill changes as well.

Fire Type Cylinders: Based on the Tier (Fire being T1 and Volcano being T2 with the Tower being T1 for balance reasons) should increase the stun time of alch skills by .5-.9 seconds.

Base Cylinders and Base Towers (and maybe Dream catchers? I'm unsure) would be able to get one of these bonuses via Alchemy Experimentation through the two NPCs (The one in Dunby and the One in Tir) but would not gain the upgrades of that element. This keeps these cylinders to be a bit more useful while still fitting the theme.

Wind Blast: CD lowered to somewhere around 10-20 seconds. DMG slightly increased (from base we have before the poll change. I don't think the skill needs huge damage, but it does need SOME.) Additionally, Wind Cylinders can cast the attack 2 more times before going on CD, and Towers can cast it 1 more time (a potential wind tower could cast it a total of 3 extra times)

Or

Windblast: CD lowered to somewhere around 10-15 seconds with the addition of lowering monster protection stat by 5 for 10 seconds (not stacking with itself). This is changed to 7 with a T1 cylinder, and 10 with a T2. Towers would only be 4 and a potential wind tower would be 12.
For both of these, +2 cylinder pressure when you hit the CD would be a nice touch.

Water Cannon: Gains a small splash cone aoe at 5 charges behind the target hit. It also ignores 50% of a mobs protection if charges are greater than 2. This helps out it's lack of crits in the end game without very high crit rate, but doesn't completely ignore it like an AoE. The small splash just seems fitting for a water based skill. I'm not sure how large it should be but I think it shouldn't be too large. As for the dmg amount? I'm not sure, 30-60%? Maybe the cone could be larger and stronger if you're within the 120% boost range and weaker and smaller if you're at the 80% range.

Flame: I think this is fine honestly. I could be wrong, someone correct me and suggest something if needed.

Heat Buster: I think it could use it's AoE from live but not a direct thing. Either a very large AoE with a low splash dmg, or a smaller AoE with more splash dmg. Suggest away!

Sand Burst: While using a t1 earth cylinder +.4 seconds to the blind time, and +1 while using a T2. A potential Earth Tower being +1.4 That's really all I'd change for the most part. It's got almost no dmg, but a 2-3 second complete shut down on a mob? Nice. I'm not sure if the CP ever needs touching up on again or not.

Frozen blast: I have almost nothing to say on this at this time. Please help.

Rain Cast: Same as above.

Shock: Same as above.

Chain Cylinder: Just...at the very least, at rank 5, drop +1s and only allow +2-4s. Other suggestions are nice.

Elemental Masteries: First, the damage formula should be addressed in a way that makes these more impact (and the way the master title works should be improved. That 10% is 10% of 10%, so it's a 1% increase...), but also maybe add bonuses to the skills based on their ranks? Either for all alchemy, or just for their respective skills.

Golem: Something needs to be done. The idea behind this skill was fine, but it's long since become a meme free damage thing with the help of AI. For a skillset all about things being different and useful, every golem is the same thing, a large pool of HP ready to WM. I'm personally not sure how to address this in a way that would satisfy the community. Ideas are very much welcome.

B.Spikes: I'm not sure if anything needs to be done or not. I'd love to be able to make an iron plated wall using iron plates or something, to give them more uses and make a wall that reflects more dmg %, but that's just me.

Synthesis: Could use a few more fixed recipes and synth item grades changed around.

Fragmentation: Could use more things to frag. Plates are untouched, and it'd be interesting to take a higher leather and break it down into lower leather? I'm not sure.

Metal Conversion: I have 0 idea if it needs anything or what.

Idea with little fleshing out via a good friend of mine who doesn't touch mabi much anymore, but never played pro. He loved the idea of actual Alchemy Symbols (historical ones) being used in either the skills or some way for the skill-set itself. Currently in Pro, we do have sprays and perhaps could find a way to make craftable alchemy symbols to put down for different effects? Problem being that I don't think a single alchemy symbol is ever used even once in-game and would have zero reason to be used. As for what they did, I'm not sure myself and he doesn't really care enough on the idea to flesh it out more at this time, so it's a free one to think about if you wanted to.

Let's get straight to the point, with the addition of A2S1 we now have a fantastic place to mine, Dyntherehrere, (I don't have the time atm to log in and get the name haha.) located in Port Cobh. This dungeon is very short and seems very new player friendly in how strong the mobs are. It leads into a straight line of a shadow mission instance filled to the brim with baddies to slay as you make your way to either a second new dungeon, or a new-ish location in Iria! Along the way mobs can drop keys for up to five chests, and up to 3 cool bosses can spawn at different locations on the sea floor. It's a cool addition and can net you some really neat items, such as the ore creates that hold up to 150 of one type of ore for 3x2 inv space! To top this area off, there's ore to mine all along the path that offers much more gold and silver than normal mining or Metalurgy could. You can even get Geods, but at this time I'm not sure what they do as they seem to not be working? I'm assuming they give ore or gems, but time will tell. The best part is that these mining spots are a 99% gather rate! It's truly the place to go for your gold and silver needs, while still giving you plenty of iron and copper.

That said, this... Heavily kills Barri for mining. Long dungeons, base 50% gather rates on the ore, slow pace to your gathering as a end result of the two, and no rewards to offer that really mean much or help you with your ore gathering (Creates). It's a fantastic update and I've loved every second that it's helped me plow through my refine ranks of two different characters, but looking at the big picture, it just made content more outdated in a sense. Could the ore from all versions of Barri/other locations offer up to 10 ore per deposit with the same 99% (or at least 80%) gather rate? This is just a small change and I doubt it would make people gather ore from these locations instead of the sea floor, but that doesn't mean old content should be left to rot, we're not Devcat/Nexon.

Before I even start this one, I know people are going to come out of the wood work to defend this skill for being completely fine. Just stop, you can yell up and down that it's fine and that people actually use it. I've seen at most 1 person use it in my year and a half of playing this game, and completely gave up on making use of it after weeks of messing with it in the past.

Let me first go over how this skill works. First you equip a taming cane in one slot, and bait in the other, both of which effect the % rate at which you tame a mob. So, after you give up an equipment slot for this one skill, you then must either yourself or a friend, weaken the mob to around 25% or 30% health, after which you can load the skill and attempt to tame the mob. Your % rate is based on skill rank (or so it claims), bait, cane, and might also get a bonus from control of darkness. Upon taming an animal, it stays at the low health you left it at and can only be healed via heal or gifting potions, neither of which you can do with CTRL click (which appears to be unchangeable). The tamed mob might have a different skill or AI compared to normal and will fight for you for a short time period. In this time period, if you move via a load zone of any kind, your mob will leave you. This means map loading zones such as Stairs in dungeons, Changing maps in the over-world in any way. You may only have one mob tamed at any rank as well. Not every mob can be tamed, which is obvious or this would be very powerful regardless of how it worked, but some mobs can't be tamed that make no sense, like lions in cor for example while actual fomors, like Lancers, can be.

This skill is abysmal while also being very unique and cool. The only other skill like it is the DK trans skills, which is very powerful but costly.

There are a number of ways to fix this skill. Ranging from removing the hp requirement, full healing the tamed mob, allowing you to tame up to 2 mobs at near end level ranks, allowing mobs to follow through load zones (like control of Darkness, a skill generations before, does) making all tamed mob AI more aggressive, altering what can and cannot be tamed, slightly raising the tame % (It's based on a number of things), or completely changing the skill with some add on of gaining a summon item that works off rank that you can use later, based on the mob tamed and not allowing more summoned than your rank allows. Some of these are minor and require less work, other require more, and any mix of these would be nice, because as the skill stands now, it's just there for a single bit of G8 story and nothing else.

I understand a skill like this has the power to be OP if over tuned even a little, because it completely eliminates a single mob, but a good way around that is to not allow canceling the mob and sending it away. (Though if that method is taken, please re-tune the training methods lol)