post rev. 1 by Waltz on 04-17-17, 10:53 am
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Dear MabiPro developers. I am Waltz, a new player who has joined Mabinogi on 4/16/2017. Being a new player was a bit tough in the beginning and even more so when I picked up Magic. I love Magic in any form of MMORPG that I've played over the years. Mabinogi being quite unique. So in my first few hours I hung out with Redlion and he showed me the benefits of magic, the pro's the con's. I was enthralled, excited and left in jubilation to become a mage to be able to don my robe 'n wizard hat. However as a new player it took me some time to build up my income in order to get my first two spells. Roughly one hour to get my first two spells and then for my wand it took four hours of killing Red Foxes/Gray Foxes to get my first wand, and even then during that four hours it wasn't enough. I had saved up roughly 19k at the time and I calculated it would take another four hours to get the other half of the amount I needed to buy a wand.

So I ended up asking for help in Global, which was fine. I got assistance from Jean and Laur/Willow until I was able to get my first wand. Which was in fact a Fire Wand, I was finally making my mark as a small time mage, however I knew it was going to be even worse. So being excited, I wanted to take my wand for a test run. I began charging up my Ice Bolt's and just as I was ready to go, I ended up accidentally hitting my tab key which swapped over to my broadsword. Naturally I changed back before I was hit with the prompt message of "The Mana connected to the Wand has disappeared." For a moment I was like "Well okay then, guess I lost my charges." I went to fire up some new charges only to find out that my MP had been completely wasted and I hadn't even gone out of my way to cast a single spell. I asked Jean about it and he responded promptly "Mana Evaporation.".

So getting into the meat and potatoes of this story, Mana Evaporation occurs when you have a full MP Bar and equip a wand, and then when you switch a weapon your MP (By lore standards) that is connected to the wand is diminished and is lost. Now in terms of this being a gameplay mechanic, it's in my opinion quite bad. This will discourage new players from actually picking up Mage as their main. It forces you to play something else that you just might not want to in order to bypass that issue. Even then another problem with ME, (we'll call it ME for short) is that in any form of PvE if you need to switch your weapon for any reason that's MP out of the window and that is common knowledge by anyone's viewpoint. Now going further down the rabbit hole for Mage. As I said I am new, but I take time to observe and check out what the game has to offer. Starting off was very rough, if I didn't have any help I wouldn't have bothered picking up a Wand to begin with, the outright cost is rather high and the lowest being a 41k Wand. Sure you can crank out the dosh for it, but the benefit of having it isn't a benefit at all if you can't fully utilize the wand, that includes the MP along with it. ME in a PvE situation is a do or die situation and to make matters worse no shops sell Mana Potions and even then, drinking too many Mana Potions will give you Mana Poisoning. There are from what I was told certain "Stones" you can get to circumvent it. But it's just truly not enough.

ME causes huge discouragement (at least in myself) to continue playing Mage as well as the financial upkeep to upgrade your wand. Which in turn forces the player to play another class first in order to build up finances enough to actually support their main class, which in this case "would be" mage. I would imagine that a new player who got their wand, was excited to use it went into a dungeon and went to use their wand, only to switch it out after they used it for a bit would find it to be pretty heartbreaking to watch their MP go down the drain. This also discourage's spell-sword play or any form of MP related build that can be done via combo's.

For example Fire Bolt > Enemy Knockdown > Weapon Switch (Sword) > Assault Slash > Weapon Switch > Ice Bolt Charge

It completely negates the auxiliary weapon slots that are in the game. Also players who use Healing Magic in their builds are going to be looking for alternative means to heal. Say you use a melee weapon and you take a pretty bad hit, you are also Potion Poisoned, so those aren't really an option for you right now. You switch to your Healing Wand and heal up. You then put it away and swap to your main weapon, only to find your MP is gone. Drinking a Mana Potion to replace the evaporated mana would only harm you further, it brings progression to a small standstill for those who want to hybridize between Melee/Magic outside of Alchemy.

I can only stress that MP Evaporation is reworked. When you perhaps remove your wand you lose maybe 1-3% of your MP total and not your entire bar. As in terms of magic for what I do know, putting your entire being into a low level magic attack would not be necessary. This maybe could be tied to wands. The higher level want the more MP % is lost upon it being removed instead of having it entirely washed out and made useless. This would encourage more spell use, but at the same time thinking ahead/critical thinking in situations where you need to spare MP for yourself for later usage and not a one and done type deal. Now I know what you're thinking. "Well if your situation is so bad. Just use a bomb." But that's not the point that's being made here. You shouldn't have to use a bomb because of a mechanic that removes your MP entirely and gives you no alternative other than to use one because you are put in dire straights.

Please reconsider Mana Evaporation as it hurts us players who are mage's at heart. I beg of you, not as someone who likes mage, but as a new player looking to carve a niche for themselves in MabiPro.
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post rev. 7 by Waltz on 04-17-17, 09:06 pm
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Hello there. I want to start this thread as to keep tabs on my products and what I am selling. Right now it won't be much. But in the future I will be selling probably a good variety of items. I also stole this motto from Emil. So thank Yoko Taro for this.

I pledge to you guys this wonderful song.

My stuff's so cheap
That you will not believe how much you can save
So swing on by and then purchase things til you're broke

Prices so low that you need a great sword
To slash them more
Any lower would be illegal
Really

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Buy stuff now or kick yourself later

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
I won't even charge or markup

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Better buy now or you'll cry all night

Everdays a sale
every sales a win
Every day is great when you're me


Grand Opening!

Buying

Mana Herbs - 1k Each
Blood Herbs - 1k Each

Selling

Holy Water - 20k/stack.
Emporium Promo: First time puchasing from me? No problem! 20% Discount on your first purchase!
Promo: Buy 3 stacks and get your next 3 @ 50% off!

Due to the overall demand of the product the sale is being changed! How orders are handled. Leave a comment here asking for an order and how many stacks. For right now it will be three stack's max per person. I will then send you the items with the price tagged onto it. I will message you in game to let you know I finished. Please be patient as this takes time. So start sending orders! Also first come first served.
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post rev. 1 by Waltz on 04-19-17, 01:08 am
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In terms of Magic being an issue, I went and made a giant, just so I could fund my mage. It's a bit sad, but that's where I am at right now. You need to pick up an alternate job/race just to fund yourself or you will be spinning in place trying to scrap for money. If the game is about choice, then adding Mana Evaporation is a poor one. Now this is just giving some insight to the game, but I visited another server today that used G1. (Not sure how Generation's Scale) but they removed Mana Evaporation entirely, now granted I was the only one on said server at the time. But it seems highly likely that it can be removed.

Now I am not saying that the dev on our server has to abide by what we want. But using the stigma of "Stop liking that thing I don't like." It seems people on this server like to fear monger people out of playing a mage class. By fear monger, I mean down trod magic to the point of where it's "stupid". I will say the financial cost to even start magic and excuse my french, is fucking absurd.

For a "Fantasy Life" game, this puts a lot of mid-tier gating on certain aspects, magic being one of them as you have to have a sustained income to even begin to tap into it. I also noticed that we get melee weapons, but no starter magical weapons? At least a beginner wand and Frostbolt should be given to push the person in the right track, at least let them dabble in magic and see whether or not they want to pursue it.

For the veterans of Mabinogi, sure the game wasn't probably "this easy" for you when you started.

Here is a post of someone on the Mabinogi Subreddit.



I am very inclined to agree with them.
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post rev. 6 by Waltz on 04-19-17, 02:56 am
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Hello. This is a guide to quickly install Mabinogi Professional. Please use it.

If you're here, then obviously you made it to the website. Congratulations. Now let us get started.



Click Register. It will bring you to the registration page.
Mabi.Pro doesn't authenticate your email. So making an account is rather easily and is quite fast.

Once you registered your account. Check the picture below to see the next step in the process.



So you've got the game downloaded. Cool. Moving onto the next step then. There's also a neat picture.

Note: Make sure you put Mabinogi Professional in an empty directory. For those who don't know what means. Right click on your desktop. Hit New Folder. Here's a picture.



Name the folder to whatever you want. (i.e - DevCat sucks.)



Click the installer and Run it as administrator. As you should with any executable file.

Let the game install. Go through the prompts.

Launching The Game

Assuming you made it this far. Check the image below on how to properly run the game.



Right Click > Create Shortcut (Optional)

Always run the game from the picture's example. Don't click on the Installer again.
Also run the Launcher as administrator.



HIT THE BIG GREEN BUTTON!

Enjoy the game.

If you're still getting issues. Such as the 214 issue. See this here post.
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Posted at 04-19-17, 02:56 am Link | #
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Oh wow.

I was actually going to make my own tutorial since yesterday...
But, this works out as well !

Great job

You should also state that the launcher should be launched in admin mode as well

Updated.
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Posted at 04-19-17, 08:20 pm Link | #
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Waltz. Your opinion on the cost is rather funny, since you seem to think grinding on foxes for four hours is a good source of income.

edit:

Also, you have literally no reason to need a wand as a beginner.


1. I didn't know about Fomor's until I was told by Amy. Obviously your lack in reading comprehension shows this or else you wouldn't have gone through the effort to make this post. Read everything or don't read at all.


2. A beginner wand is quite needed for people looking to actually dabble into magic and try it out. If they don't like it, they can toss the wand. But every wand after that would cost them money.

3. The amount of elitism in this community is astounding. Because people want to play differently from you, you make it your personal agenda to snuff out anything that's not the "norm".
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Posted at 04-20-17, 02:10 am Link | #
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Lycoris. Maybe you should look at the name of the server. And at the tagline for the server.
This server literally exists for exactly what you're saying people didn't come here for.
They don't want the hardcore original experience? they shouldn't _be_ here.
If they want easy mode, they should go to live. They have a choice. The choice exists.

People don't like being told that they are free to go, but, they are. We're not holding them here against their will. I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for stating it bluntly, but there it is.

You really seem to have an elitist attitude when it comes to this game. Maybe it should be you who takes a knee for once. Not everyone should play the way you do. Considering you probably don't even use a Mage why would this bother you? We don't have enough people to fully PvP with so I don't see anyone trying to stomp you in PvP and even then they're minor tweaks at best. You really need to stop throwing your opinion around like it's fact/law. This narrow minded way of thinking would probably keep players from coming here, versus letting them stay. I don't know about you but I'd like to see an "increase" in our population. Not a decrease.

If someone doesn't play the same way you do, that's entirely fine. It doesn't make them "bad" , like it was said before, it's open to interpretation. However you really need to stop having this "Stop liking what I don't like." attitude. You can't force your ideals on someone else. Nobody is telling you to drop down to someone else's level and play like them, just be more agreeable to the changes being asked or at the very least give people the ability to tow the line with their opinion.
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Posted at 04-21-17, 08:54 pm Link | #
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Yeah I would like to see some art of my Mabi character, provided people would want to draw her.
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post rev. 2 by Waltz on 04-21-17, 09:04 pm
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Now I don't normally make post regarding finances, as it's none of my business. But I do like the server to say that I would like to donate 30-50$ to keep it going. However that being said you guys don't take normal currency, instead it's Bitcoin and fuck all if I know how to use Bitcoin. (Don't bother giving me guides. Won't read them.) As far as I am concerned it's from what I've been told a "dying currency" and was wondering if there was alternative means to donate to help the server. Perhaps be able to donate enough from everyone to up the server equipment. As I was told it's being all housed on one machine, which can be taxing. I don't know how much servers cost but trust me Flipendo and the rest of the Mabi.Pro Staff team, if you get Paypal up and running you will see me donate quite often. I'm sure the rest of us would as well. If anyone else know's any other methods of donating or outlets TO donate, I'd love to hear it. Hell, why not start up a Patreon? Would that work?
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Posted at 04-29-17, 03:20 pm Link | #
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This is still going on? I gave up awhile ago. People are just stubborn to change.
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