Authentic Old-School Mabinogi Experience
Posted at 07-09-17, 11:28 pm Link | #
If players only get 1 AoE pet, I dont see it becoming a huge problem like abusing like you say though, but if the majority vote for no AoE pets or AoE effects being removed, thats fine by me, I still disagree with what selzyr said because not everyone plays under the same circumstances, not to mention not everyone who joins the server will be an experienced player, we'll be getting people that are new to Mabinogi and decided to start with this server invited by a friend or X situation and of course these new players that are less experienced may have trouble with situations like Drawing mentioned and we cant just say ''This game isnt for you'' because then RIP servers growth. As much we know population on this server will be low, it'd be nice to increase it if possible to keep things lively as much as possible.
Then it boils down to what's the point of the server? Growth? Mabi's got a large player base in comparison to pro. It has more content and honestly is more friendly to newer players. Is that what this server is to become? Something where you can just faceroll any content? With naos, emergency bombs, red coin shop, and shyla's shop all on this server, the fact you don't have to pay for anything with rl cash, is honestly far easier than the live server was back during this generation. You also have the fact that you get double xp and ap, meaning faster char growth and your char's ap, ie your skills ranks, are basically going to be double what they would if you were playing live at its time during this generation. I'm seeing a request to help make it easier, and this may promote server growth, but on the flip side you could achieve the exact opposite and run the server straight into the ground.
I'm sure i'm not the only one who joined this server, because of the fact i had more fun on mabi back during these generations, than i can have on mabi now even though i've maxed out most of my skills on live. You were rewarded for effort during these times. I already don't feel much pressure running into a situation where i may die, because aside from trans for an easy heal and stat jump, i have all those naos. If the game gets too much easier, especially in party play, i can honestly say i will quit this server. Not because i don't get my way, just because the server moved too far into ezmode for me to get any enjoyment out of it. If i want quick profit games, or where i can show off how i can solo something that was originally designed for 6 people and to be helluva hard for them still, (MA) then i can go back to live.
No reason to be that pessimistic about the contents of the live server, I get that fear too, the last thing I want is this server turning into that AFK game Nexon created, but you do know that even if content from the live server were to be added here, it doesnt have to be exactly the same, right? of course Nexon was terrible at handling things, but I do believe this being a private server, we have the chance to handle things better, we could add things without breaking the game, we have that chance, if we add the AoE pets and it makes the game too easy because we already have things that make the game easy, then why not doing a rebalancing? it would be nicer to have a wider variety of pets than having so many Nao stones each day or having all of those emergency bombs. When adding new content that has the chance to have an impact on the gameplay such as make it too easy, then a rebalancing is need.. and so can be done on maintenance/updates of the game, by removing other things or editing their effects or restricting them to a lower amount. Of course thats up to the devs though, as they're the ones that'll be doing the work and after all it can be alot of work to do rebalancing everytime big content is gonna get added. So maybe bottom line is, adding that kind of risky content only if the devs are willing to do the extra work on rebalancing things, if not, then we're fine as we are now, you can just reskin pets to even create different looking pets if people just want variations of pets or add the pets without the effects like has been mentioned before
Posted at 07-10-17, 12:23 am Link | #
No reason to be that pessimistic about the contents of the live server, I get that fear too, the last thing I want is this server turning into that AFK game Nexon created, but you do know that even if content from the live server were to be added here, it doesnt have to be exactly the same, right? of course Nexon was terrible at handling things, but I do believe this being a private server, we have the chance to handle things better, we could add things without breaking the game, we have that chance, if we add the AoE pets and it makes the game too easy because we already have things that make the game easy, then why not doing a rebalancing? it would be nicer to have a wider variety of pets than having so many Nao stones each day or having all of those emergency bombs. When adding new content that has the chance to have an impact on the gameplay such as make it too easy, then a rebalancing is need.. and so can be done on maintenance/updates of the game, by removing other things or editing their effects or restricting them to a lower amount. Of course thats up to the devs though, as they're the ones that'll be doing the work and after all it can be alot of work to do rebalancing everytime big content is gonna get added. So maybe bottom line is, adding that kind of risky content only if the devs are willing to do the extra work on rebalancing things, if not, then we're fine as we are now, you can just reskin pets to even create different looking pets if people just want variations of pets or add the pets without the effects like has been mentioned before
But I AM pessimistic about the outcome. With wings, it would not have affected gameplay in the slightest, but it was rejected. With egos, there was mention that they could be rebalanced, but due to the rebalance affecting the ego's growth and would not buff pre-existing egos, i believe it was rejected. I forget what all's been in the content polls, but i vaguely recall seeing some ideas that wouldn't have really affected gameplay in any major way, or would have been a nice addition (imo) and seemed to get rejected.
My faith in the community is not exactly sky high, and judging from the wings' votes, i'm betting plenty of the playerbase is afraid of this game becoming like live, to the point of irrationally rejecting content. Maybe that's what i'm doing. My thoughts on aoe pets are fairly clear though, and with the ego issue i don't put a whole lotta faith in rebalance for the aoe pets. I'll still stand by my previous opinion.
Fair enough, I respect that people can have all those fears of this server becoming the same as live, after watching Nexon destroy the game for years with every update handled wrong, at the same time.. being too afraid to do things may lead to ruin the server as well, if people keep constantly rejecting all the new content, I just hope the game dont become boring, you know.. seeing the same stuff for months.
Will have to cross my fingers for partners to be added and not rejected someday > . <
Posted at 07-10-17, 09:08 pm Link | #
I like the idea, I think something to make people want to party more is always good.
As for ideas what could be added to make partying more attractive, I have 2 ideas that I can think of at the moment, dont know if it can be done but lets say what people think about it.
1 - Right now we have 2 different currencies, gold and red coins, what about adding a third currency and this third currency would only drop from from dungeons/SM/TM when in a party and maybe adding an additional shop to Shyla, I dont know if there are plans to add beauty coupons but if there are, then maybe the beauty coupons could be obtained from this shop using the new currency, as well as some other items that are just for appearance so that we dont have to worry about affecting gameplay, maybe adding some of the good outfits from gacha but since it would be an easier to obtain version, lets make them timed, like the outfits expiring after a week maybe, but also making them kinda expensive so it wont affect gachapon either.
2 - If the idea of adding that third currency is not good, instead of that we could just have drops that are only obtained from the boss when in a party, this has to be a really good drops that people really wanna get, and the drop rate should be a little low so that it gives people reasons to run the dungeon/SM/TM many times, but also not so slow that it makes the frustrate them and discourage them from running it?
As for ideas what could be added to make partying more attractive, I have 2 ideas that I can think of at the moment, dont know if it can be done but lets say what people think about it.
1 - Right now we have 2 different currencies, gold and red coins, what about adding a third currency and this third currency would only drop from from dungeons/SM/TM when in a party and maybe adding an additional shop to Shyla, I dont know if there are plans to add beauty coupons but if there are, then maybe the beauty coupons could be obtained from this shop using the new currency, as well as some other items that are just for appearance so that we dont have to worry about affecting gameplay, maybe adding some of the good outfits from gacha but since it would be an easier to obtain version, lets make them timed, like the outfits expiring after a week maybe, but also making them kinda expensive so it wont affect gachapon either.
2 - If the idea of adding that third currency is not good, instead of that we could just have drops that are only obtained from the boss when in a party, this has to be a really good drops that people really wanna get, and the drop rate should be a little low so that it gives people reasons to run the dungeon/SM/TM many times, but also not so slow that it makes the frustrate them and discourage them from running it?
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