Authentic Old-School Mabinogi Experience
Posted at 03-04-17, 03:23 am Link | #
Posts: 2147i liked the dark purple one, the current pink one is too bright
Posted at 03-04-17, 03:30 am Link | #
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Posted at 03-04-17, 04:39 am Link | #
Metallic Green with a mod from penguin eater of mabimods, slightly customized so that i can see expired passes/enchants in the inventory. Of the original, gray thin glass due to easy to see inventory space and not unbearable colors.
https://mabimods.net/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item1031
https://mabimods.net/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item1031
Oh neat!
Posted at 03-04-17, 04:41 am Link | #
i liked the dark purple one, the current pink one is too bright
Not sure if it was a modded theme or added post-g13
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Only the parent directory works for me. :o
Only the parent directory works for me. :o
can you download it at all? both links work on my end
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Posted at 03-05-17, 05:58 am Link | #
This is funny. I like it. Maybe we could do this in the future. Thanks for the suggestion.
Posted at 03-05-17, 05:02 pm Link | #
They shouldn't be inaccurate, Mabinogi's RNG is just silly.
The normal Mabinogi client should detect it and tell you that you cannot run two Mabinogi clients at once. If you use a multiclienting mod, you should be able to fine though.
Posted at 03-06-17, 11:01 am Link | #
if anyone could take the "moonshine" out of the title it would be appreciated
Posted at 03-06-17, 11:21 am Link | #
I don't know why you would be having issues. Are you getting 300ms from the Mabinogi pinger? It's notoriously inaccurate.
Try to open a command prompt and ping 162.253.176.94 and see what you have to there.
Try to open a command prompt and ping 162.253.176.94 and see what you have to there.
Posted at 03-06-17, 12:50 pm Link | #
my major is visual communication
I'd like to point out that there is a 10ms ping overhead between MabiPro's public IP address and our actual game server, so do take that into account when measuring ping from command prompt.
Local 0ms ping test server with Nagle's algorithm enabled
http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_001.webm
Local 0ms ping test server with Nagle's algorithm disabled (Theoretical fastest speed)
http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_002.webm
Remote 40ms ping production server with Nagle's algorithm disabled
http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_005.webm
There is a minuscule difference between production and test server as you can see by my videos and Nagle's Algorithm is a serious ping detriment so make sure that is turned off.
I don't see anything wrong with your 1500 MTU test, it is damn near close to the theoretical fastest speed.
The reason your skill actions are delayed is because of Mabinogi's built in packet queue.
Your 128 MTU test has inconsistencies that are caused by your local computer not dispatching packets as a whole. Basically, your MTU is too low. It's splitting up your packets into smaller segments which causes a significant delay during full transmission. MTU is not a packet queue size, lowering it does not cause packets to dispatch quicker.
There could be minor networking inconsistencies between you and the server, but that is completely out of our control and you should contact your ISP about that; I don't see any inconsistencies however.
Here's the point: As long as your client is sending packets properly, packets are arriving in a timely manner, and you don't hit Mabinogi's built in packet queue that delays packets intentionally if you send too much (like autoclicking), you will not experience lag.
Local 0ms ping test server with Nagle's algorithm enabled
http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_001.webm
Local 0ms ping test server with Nagle's algorithm disabled (Theoretical fastest speed)
http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_002.webm
Remote 40ms ping production server with Nagle's algorithm disabled
http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_005.webm
There is a minuscule difference between production and test server as you can see by my videos and Nagle's Algorithm is a serious ping detriment so make sure that is turned off.
I don't see anything wrong with your 1500 MTU test, it is damn near close to the theoretical fastest speed.
The reason your skill actions are delayed is because of Mabinogi's built in packet queue.
Your 128 MTU test has inconsistencies that are caused by your local computer not dispatching packets as a whole. Basically, your MTU is too low. It's splitting up your packets into smaller segments which causes a significant delay during full transmission. MTU is not a packet queue size, lowering it does not cause packets to dispatch quicker.
There could be minor networking inconsistencies between you and the server, but that is completely out of our control and you should contact your ISP about that; I don't see any inconsistencies however.
Here's the point: As long as your client is sending packets properly, packets are arriving in a timely manner, and you don't hit Mabinogi's built in packet queue that delays packets intentionally if you send too much (like autoclicking), you will not experience lag.
Why, though, is the "theoretical maximum speed" on this server so much slower than it was on the live servers back in the day? Like I said, people with 5 ping were able to literally heal 5 times so fast that it looked like a single heal. Another thing I'd like you to test is casting icebolt (or any bolt) onto a monster while you are not in combat mode. Initializing combat mode seems to be one of the laggiest functions in the game, but anyone who played the game back then can distinctly remember all the Californians casting bolts immediately after they finished charging them even when they weren't starting in combat mode.
There definitely seems to be some sort of an issue with how the server processes data compared to how it was in the original game.
There definitely seems to be some sort of an issue with how the server processes data compared to how it was in the original game.
I can test that later, but I'd like to point out we are the "original game", considering we run the server with the real files and we're not an emulator.
Posted at 03-07-17, 10:47 pm Link | #
Why, though, is the "theoretical maximum speed" on this server so much slower than it was on the live servers back in the day? Like I said, people with 5 ping were able to literally heal 5 times so fast that it looked like a single heal. Another thing I'd like you to test is casting icebolt (or any bolt) onto a monster while you are not in combat mode. Initializing combat mode seems to be one of the laggiest functions in the game, but anyone who played the game back then can distinctly remember all the Californians casting bolts immediately after they finished charging them even when they weren't starting in combat mode.
There definitely seems to be some sort of an issue with how the server processes data compared to how it was in the original game.
There definitely seems to be some sort of an issue with how the server processes data compared to how it was in the original game.
I can test that later, but I'd like to point out we are the "original game", considering we run the server with the real files and we're not an emulator.
There is no server settings related to networking, in fact most of the server isn't really configurable by normal means.
Posted at 03-07-17, 10:55 pm Link | #
I don't know how the game is now, but back in G13 and earlier, the actually achieved speeds were significantly higher than your proposed theoretical maximums. This means that you either performed the test incorrectly or that there is some sort of difference between the files which were actually used for the original game and what you are using currently.
The files we are currently using were used on original Mabinogi during G13S1-G13S2 for Japan test server.
Tested icebolt, there is no noticable difference between 0ms and 40ms.
The lockup seems to be clientsided, so it was probably a mod that fixed it.
Here they are:
0ms: http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_011.webm
40ms: http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_009.webm
Posted at 03-07-17, 11:00 pm Link | #
Could you also test to see if elf charge+smash is even possible? I don't play an elf and I'm busy with real life stuff and will be for the next couple weeks otherwise I would test a lot of this myself.
Is elf Charge somehow different than normal Charge?
all of my videos are with leatrix latency fix enabled (disables nagle's algorithm), the very first video is from G13 or G14 on the live nexon server
the inconsistencies exist and are more obvious on an offline server:
https://youtu.be/cm9EXXf7ZR8
there are pauses while spamming lb, healing, weapon switching and resting
i assure you these didn't exist in the live server
everything is much slower compared to socal/texan players from the live G13, in terms of weapon switching, skill spamming, rest spamming, etc
i won't post on this topic anymore i just wanted to inform people
the inconsistencies exist and are more obvious on an offline server:
https://youtu.be/cm9EXXf7ZR8
there are pauses while spamming lb, healing, weapon switching and resting
i assure you these didn't exist in the live server
everything is much slower compared to socal/texan players from the live G13, in terms of weapon switching, skill spamming, rest spamming, etc
i won't post on this topic anymore i just wanted to inform people
That inconsistency is the mint/packet queue delay, which is clientside, not server lag.
Tested elf Charge + Smash;
it is easy on 0ms ping and mildly harder on 40ms with about 10-15ms (nearing the stun completion animation) left in the mob's stun before the Smash finishes charging.
0ms: http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_014.webm
40ms: http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_020.webm
These tests and what Satori has shown just proves that it's absolutely not a networking issue or a testing issue.
it is easy on 0ms ping and mildly harder on 40ms with about 10-15ms (nearing the stun completion animation) left in the mob's stun before the Smash finishes charging.
0ms: http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_014.webm
40ms: http://mabinogi.ir/img/vid/mabinogi_2017_03_07_020.webm
These tests and what Satori has shown just proves that it's absolutely not a networking issue or a testing issue.
I found a decent source for how 10 ms should look like. Keep in mind this is a 2016 test, so the client obviously would have changed since now, but I can pretty much guarantee people around this lagless played in 2010. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7XXtrMu-6s
This is undeniably less laggy than what you showed even at 0 ping.
This is undeniably less laggy than what you showed even at 0 ping.
That's completely impossible to do without modding the game. He has modified the networking code of the Mabinogi client; he removed the clientside mint/packet queue that I keep talking about, and optimized a lot of it to get it to function that way.
That is absolutely not what 10ms *should* look like at all.
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