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When speaking to him in the beginner quest, you get to a point where he shows a picture of HP potions. There are two dialogue options, both lead back to the picture in an endless loop. The player is not given HP pots, so using them shouldn't be required; however, at this point the quest can already be completed and the next quest gained, though the dialogue will still loop. The only way to get out is to force close the client in task manager and restart.

Tieve was never a goddess. She was a mortal reincarnation of Morrighan that slowly was pulled back to Tir Na Nog in order to transform back into Morrighan. However, she had developed a separate identity than Morrighan so when she turned into her, it was said their "souls" were fighting over the body and Morrighan's won. That's not to say that Tieve isn't still in Morrighan somewhere, but it's possible for her to be completely destroyed one day; however, Morrighan's docile, peaceful look in Mabi is very, very similar to Tieve's personality, so either Morrighan is copying her to seem innocent or they're still fighting over their body (which makes sense as during Alch it shows Morrighan being "awakened" as the goddess of destruction, different from her personality up to that point).

It's likely that Mari merged with Dana, as Dana is a central deity that as-of-yet has not been revealed in-game; Tieve is not a deity, never was, never will be.


If Morrighan really destroyed Tieve completely, which I doubt, there's no way Cichol would befriend her. Unlike Morrighan taking over Tieve's body, Cichol is really just Keaghan having achieved godhood, meaning that Cichol === Keaghan forever, and Keaghan absolutely hates Morrighan for taking Tieve from him. I can only see him working together with her if Tieve wants it.


I disagree with you on all accounts for Lugh/Morgant and Triona. In Live it's revealed that Macha somehow is already resurrected despite the ritual to summon her through Triona failing in G3, BUT Triona "died" in Shakespeare giving Lugh/Morgant a legit reason to want to destroy the gods, which is what the whole Tara incident was about.

In my headcanon, the residents of Emain Macha - Lugh included - are stuck in an ageless dreamstate where they don't age, the Tragedy actually happened long ago, the Three Warriors were all there (Mari was escaping when Merlin's spell went wrong and "froze" the inhabitants), and over time the events that people refer to as happening long ago occur with the characters involved remaining at the same age. If so, it's possible for Macha's curse to have happened right before that with Lugh being her lover that, due to his status, was politically forced to marry another woman, making Triona Macha's daughter and therefore it making sense for her to be used as a medium for Macha since demigods have been shown in Mabi to be good conductors.

Some people may have detected otherworldly power from Triona and thought she was a Fomor, especially since Macha's curse and the Tragedy both could have made Lugh defect from Humanity and the Gods which would give him a reason to become Morgant, especially since he wanted to protect his daughter. This would also give him a REASON for risking his daughter's life for Macha if he was still in love with her and wanted to bring her back.

This is why my headcanon remake of G16 etc involves Triona successfully becoming Macha only for Macha to realize that it was her daughter that's her vessel and murdering Lugh for trying to sacrifice her, and she "kills" herself to die with Lugh but Triona inherits the body and officially ascends to godhood in place of her mother. Happy ending for her since she can be with Ruari, and Lugh/Macha's starcrossed tale ends with its proper Romeo/Juliet style fate.


Extra Info: My vision of a remade Chapter 4 just consists of four plays, one for each guardian (Hamlet>Juliet>Midsummer>Golvan). G13 is really just replaced by the entire Chapter 4. The last guardian, a concept abandoned by DevCat, has to be made original (they're based on tarots, so maybe a Chariot with four beasts). My idea is for Merrow to be Bella in disguise and her play, For Golvan, to be last - it's a mysterious play that Shakespeare didn't write but was delivered to the actors and he likes it so it's played; it's basically Bella's attempt to get Shakespeare prepared for future events (Chapter 5, which consists of Macbeth, Venice, Tempest, and Pericles, not in order) with Golvan representing Shakespeare and Aisling representing Bella; Aisling is supposedly from a "play" where she's a guard of the Queen of Swords (Morrighan) and sacrifices herself to save those she loves (which is true as Bella in Live dies and believes her actions were to stop Erinn from being destroyed), meaning that Golvan/Ailsing ARE Shakespeare/Bella and she's trying to warn him...with For Golvan really meaning For Shakespeare, because it's for Shakespeare!

In Mabi she definitely tricks the Milletian, but only once the Milletian becomes too powerful. She really likes the Milletian until they gain too much divine power and she's afraid that they'll destroy the world, which is the reason why she even sends Bella to sacrifice herself - Morrighan cares about Erinn more than anything else, but not its inhabitants as she has constantly inspired the Fomors and Humans to kill each other to keep them from getting too powerful and she even wiped out the Partholonians just because their ruler misused a divine weapon.

But in Vindi, not much is known about her (other than that she told the Fomors that paradise would be brought to them if they killed all humans, and told the Humans the same thing but with Fomors, and both of those prophecies were lies), just that Tieve becomes possessed by her. S3 goes into more detail but it's non-canon as far as I'm concerned because it retconned a lot of stuff since it's the same writers that retconned a lot of Mabi content, and both games now have serious plotholes.


In Irish mythology, Tuatha de Danaan refers to the Gods themselves, and the humans that worshiped them adopted that name because their Gods used it. Welsh Mythology's Don - which may be male or female - is an ancestor figure in the Mabinogion and may or may not have been divine. In Mabinogi, only the Uladh Humans are called Tuatha de Danaan.

Since Tuatha de Danaan means Children of Dana (or Danu), and since Dana is a Proto-Indo-European deity, it's reasonable to claim that the Irish Gods descended from her. In Mabi, she could either be the Deity that created/brought the Uladh humans OR the human ancestor of them, but I doubt the latter since she'd likely be Partholonian in that case and it's believed that Neamhain could create living races, too.

In my headcanon, I suspect Dana was the deity that created the Uladh humans, but that took too much out of her and she "died" to some extent. That would explain why Nao, who has the power of a Deity, is still Mari with memory problems rather than a different person, as that puts her inside Dana's body rather than the other way around. This also conveniently gives an excuse for never, ever, ever featuring Dana in the game. Although that theory doesn't explain why a Deity like Nao is human-sized rather than god-sized, as if she was a Deity possessing a Human body that got as tall as a human she'd still be a tall child instead of a short grown woman.

EDIT: It was revealed sometime in Chapter 4 that the Tuatha de Danaan descended from the Partholonians, but I'm not sure if this is before or after Genesis. I define everything pre-Genesis as canon, everything post-Genesis as non-canon.


Macha shouldn't have even been at Lia Fail in the first place. Millia isn't a divine being so even if she was used as a conduit that wouldn't have brought Macha to this world from another one. In Vindi it's explained that the Gods are from a different plane (Tir Na Nog) and have to be summoned into this one through complex processes, like possessing someone's body, but even then that body would eventually fade into Tir Na Nog rather than staying on Erinn. The only reason why they can move around freely in Erinn is because Tir Na Nog was fused into Erinn at the end of Vindi S1, but that doesn't automatically open up the floodgates for deities to come in - they still need a full medium to get here, and Millia's power technically wasn't enough to do that, meaning that Macha must have already been in this world.

With that said, it's obvious that she was in this world already. She fell in love with someone in Emain Macha and then killed herself and turned into a curse that doomed the world according to the legend. The only way for her to come back was if she didn't really kill herself, which makes sense as the curse got removed...which in fantasy magic theory a divine world-ending curse can only be dispelled by the essence/power of the person that cast it, so it's likely she removed the curse herself. This means she was just enjoying her solitude until some idiots tried messing with Lia Fail (the real one in Saga, not the fake one in S3). In Saga I believe it's said she's forced to protect Lia Fail but doesn't say why; correct me if I'm wrong since I didn't play through it.


Shakespeare's okay. I just feel there was a lot of wasted potential, especially since the Globe Theatre style stories were amazing remakes and the other two generations on Belvast were rushed and barely had anything to do with their respective plays. I don't understand why they didn't incorporate the super famous A Midsummer Night's Dream or why they didn't put Tempest and Pericles in Belvast since they would have fit there perfectly. And the For Golvan being For Shakespeare is a thing I noticed, making me wonder if the Live version was Shakespeare trying to make plays about himself and Bella.

Dang, really? I though they were taller. Back in G1-3 I remember them being taller than humans... Well, I guess there's no size discrepancy, then.

Any plans on getting a guild castle? I don't know how many of those have been claimed so far.

I don't know if there already is one or not, but I can't find it with google's site search if there is.

It would be nice to have a progress list so we know how much of the game has been translated and how much is still to-do.

1. Interface/Error/Names (by area)

2. Generations (in order)

3. Misc Dialogue (basic NPC dialogue and keyword dialogue)

4. Other (events, item descriptions, billboard content, etc)

In that order for ease of search and relevance. Each piece should have either Untranslated (to be translated), In-Translation (WIP), Translated (imperfect), or Proofread (edited/cleaned) - U, I, T, and P.

I always wanted one of these.. The event would have a unique gacha filled with only swimsuits, and certain custom Pro swimsuits would be prizes from participating. It would have something like the Tara Castle system with its lottery; however, instead of Exp, players can gain red coins and AP at small amounts. If done once per week, it could be a good way for non-combatants to gain RC/AP.

If this event did happen weekly, new features could slowly be added each week, like good RNG when fishing at the beach at that time, games like volleyball with a scoreboard function, and even NPCs from the game and unique NPCs joining in with swimwear, etc, that give unique dialogue and may even reward players for talking to them. All of these features would be on the backburner until there's time for them, as they're secondary.

There could also be unique items from the party like take-it-home volleyballs, emote unlocks, sea-salt ice cream, and more.

The beauty of this event is that it can be done on any beach, so it can cycle through the beaches. However, it cannot be done in areas that are inaccessible at certain times. The areas available are: Port Ceann, Port Qilla / Rano Beach, Sella Beach, Cor Beach, Sella Beach, South Connous Beach, and Pera Beach.

And a yellow feather should be given to everyone before the event starts to get them to the correct beach.

Wow, I didn't even know that was a thing. It should be added as a part of the event!

When the player is running, Macha Hair Cessair Hair moves into them and gives them a donkey tail. If they're in a swimsuit or nude, it also gives them armpit hair.

https://i.imgur.com/4NuPIom.jpg

Is it at all possible to make Cessair Hair, like, angle itself away from the body when the player runs?

Oops, I was wrong. It's Cessair hair, not Macha Hair.

How, in any way, is this like Live? Live abandoned the core concepts that define the game; this expands upon them.

The point of this idea is to implement the game's missing content without plotholes, retcons, or inconsistencies. Characters and stories are taken as reference to make a more meaningful, sensible story while introducing vital combat mechanics that people have been asking Mabi to have for years which the devs ignored, like Scythe Mastery and proper dual-wielding for other races.

The content here is a draft, and is always subject to change. If you're going to be a critic, be constructive; if I wanted Live material in this game, I'd be playing Live instead. I don't; what I want is a Classic Mabi that gets updates that Classic Mabi would have gotten if the devs stayed true to it.

https://mabinogi.ir/p/downloads

It says temporarily unavailable, so yes, it's down.

I'm not sure how much I can contribute at this point, and I'm not on all the time, but I can join with one of my characters right now. Will this bind by other characters to the guild?

And Abb Neagh is my favorite housing area, so that works out great.

My friend still can't get the game downloaded. He's been trying for over a week but his Internet is terrible, and every single time he tries to download 242-243, it gives the signature verification error. With all the other folders that did this, he just deleted them and it fixed itself, but he says this one is "too big" so it always fails.

Can you divide 242-243 into smaller files/folders?

Alternating between them didn't get me out. And I didn't get the pots, just the picture of them.

Also if it was some kind of "which potion is this" test, it wouldn't have automatically completed the quest; instead, the quest was complete but I was stuck in a loop of additional dialogue.

I would be best to eventually just make it a Pro wiki, since Pro has additional features.

Oh, I just forgot whether guild membership is character-based or account-based.

Is it against wikia's rules to host the wiki of a private server?

Or is it just that a wikia wiki would be too much of a downgrade?

Nope, it's not working.

I extracted it directly into MabiPro, didn't work, then I tried cutting the folders down until just the file, none of that worked, then I tried putting it in the Astral folder, and that didn't work.

What is the exact line that it should end up as?