MabiPro: The Authentic Old-School Mabinogi Experience

post rev. 1 by satori on 03-07-17, 06:28 pm

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It appears that you are using an AutoClicker for this
Please do not test latency with AutoClicker tools, as this messes up packet lining

both are with autoclickers and it still happens without using an autoclicker

there's something wrong but i'm not the one thats able to figure out if its the server or the routing or the game

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all of my videos are with leatrix latency fix enabled (disables nagle's algorithm), the very first video is from G13 or G14 on the live nexon server

the inconsistencies exist and are more obvious on an offline server:
https://youtu.be/cm9EXXf7ZR8

there are pauses while spamming lb, healing, weapon switching and resting
i assure you these didn't exist in the live server

everything is much slower compared to socal/texan players from the live G13, in terms of weapon switching, skill spamming, rest spamming, etc

i won't post on this topic anymore i just wanted to inform people

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skipping g1 makes other generations harder

post rev. 2 by satori on 03-08-17, 09:07 pm

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Posted by joeybahn

I use leatrix fixed my nagle and was using ping zapper.
Looks like I'm screwed haha

use leatrix latency fix and 128 mtu, it should fix your lag problems as that's what players did to get a decent connection with high ping in the live version of G13.

you will still lag if you use 1500 mtu on 100 ping, its necessary to change it

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Posted by darkholme

edit: Got it to work after some tinkering(just had to move the contents of the folder into the directory and overwrite, not sure why it's an installer at this point)

Now the new issue is that the map mods don't seem to work. They're definitely in the pack, but they're not showing up in SMs or Iria or anywhere they should be working.

most of the sm maps and exploration maps work for me, not really gonna put much effort into this mod until later

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goodjob with fixing the server so fast

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Posted by mabipro1

Okay so my question is:
What's the point on playing on a 2x server when on global you can easily get 4x to 6x skill progression?
Why play on nerfed rates?

it's not nerfed, the live mabinogi is just a mess now, imo the rates are 2x higher than they should be on this server

post rev. 1 by satori on 03-10-17, 01:49 am

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Posted by marusa

The uptick in people calling for giant nerfs really concerns me: I'd like to throw my voice in as one of the players who enjoys the fact that this server is casual-friendly and not excessively punishing. It's a great game to pick up and chill out (on my own or with friends) and not stress too much about whether my build's going to be crippled by wand repairs. If someone doesn't like that, the files are available to create their own ultra-hardcore server, not change what a lot of people already enjoy.

1x rates isn't that much harder than 2x rates it just balances the game more easily since its already designed around that, but it would be kind of boring to have slower rates with no playerbase built up

post rev. 1 by satori on 03-28-17, 07:33 pm

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http://mabinogi.ir/thread/194-satori-s-mod-g13#post516

post rev. 2 by satori on 03-12-17, 09:04 pm

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its far too easy to get r1 wm with the 4x combat training now, and the windmill with no hp loss would just make it even more imbalanced

Posted by steelra

5. Elemental Shields
*I always thought this should be like a passive buff to party members. Casting it temporarily increases party members resistance to an elemental damage. These were added to alleviate headache from ranged attacks, and to reduce damage from Dragon/powerful enemy breath attacks, but their clunky charge up time, area of effect, and lack of mobility make them inefficient at best.

elemental shields have effective use in PvP

Posted by steelra

classes

There will be need for future classes, skills, and perhaps even races, provided Mabi.Pro survives as long as we'd like it to. I would suggest the addition of some of the later classes, as we could dig through the live files to see about their implementation.
1. Bard.
*Probably hands down the BEST added class in recent-ish patches. I don't think anyone would disagree with Bard having it's own class.
2. Fighter.
*I didn't like this one, and I don't think many other classic players did. But it's still an option. If it is added, remove Respite's magic penalty. It's pretty stupid. Especially when they then added Merlin's knuckles.
3. Puppeteer
*Some of it was a bit sloppy, but the community seemed to really take to this class.
4. Gunslinger.
*Really don't know the communities thoughts on this one. I personally didn't mind it too much, other than some scalings.
5. Ninja.
*Never used. Wasn't interested. Someone might care. Ask them.
6. Later/Additional class skills.
*Meteor shouldn't have such a ridiculous cooldown. Just gonna put that out there.
*Giants, elves, and any future races should have access to g1-g3 storyline, and paladin/dark knight skills. Beast/Falcon should remain as is, and another should be added for humans. Paladin/DK is about choosing to be good or evil, while, Beast/Falcon is about awakening one's inner spirit. Courcle should give humans their Awakening quest. Both transformations cannot be used at once. Of course, this would require model creation. I'm sure someone can reverse engineer and figure out how to make models for Mabi if they have not already. I would certainly apply myself to building those models, if Blender or a similar model-making tool could be used.
*Speaking of Paladin/DK, DK's RNG-based transformations should be forced into set boosts, like Paladin. Control of Darkness could be replaced with a familiar that is summoned whenever you transform, and dissipates when you de-trans. These skills could then become Ally of Darkness for DK, and Ally of Light for Paladin. A quest to redeem yourself should be made available for DK's, and a quest of falling should be made available to Paladins, essentially the sidequest at the end of G3 for DK so that Players can actually flip flop back and forth, instead of being stuck in non-plot relevant armor to their character.

ideas post G12 should not be implemented because nexon's dev team was changed and the game started going entirely downhill because they had no idea what they were doing, new content added to the server should be independent from the live version similar to the way oldschool runescape does it

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Posted by Faefellah

Posted by satori

ideas post G12 should not be implemented because nexon's dev team was changed and the game started going entirely downhill because they had no idea what they were doing...

I'd like to point out, things like pots, feathers, bandages, and a few other things had their max stack size increased. Some skills had the caps removed or raised, auto-queuing items into a production form was added, inventory auto-organize was added, tagging bags for when you pick up new items was added. The list goes on.

Post g12 does not necessarily make every idea bad. Yes, they should be closely monitored or modified possibly, but flat out refusing them based on the premise not of balance or how it affects the game, but that it was post g12, is not what you want.

Switching off that topic.
I will bring up the topic of mana evaportation for giants being a big issue for something like peaca. Wights are fully immune to physical, our throwing attack has a nasty cool down. I'm sure you can imagine the results for a giant in peaca, so i'll leave it at that. My opinion, i really want to do away with evaporation regardless, but w/e happens, happens.

there are some decent QUALITY OF LIFE updates, but those don't change the entire balance of the game.

take a look at oldschool runescape, but ignore their bad polled in updates (For example, the dragon spear special attack was extremely overpowered, but everybody voted no to nerfing it because every clan abused it and wanted to keep it in the game)

post rev. 3 by satori on 03-15-17, 07:35 pm

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apparently you need to relog to make them stackable

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Cat%27s_Eye#General_Information

i have not yet gotten any of them to stack

post rev. 1 by satori on 03-15-17, 04:25 am

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Posted by epsilon017

1) Meditation regen should be based on the live servers, right now it's pretty useless, and without it MP takes a while to recover without potions or a mana tunnel.

meditation may not be the greatest, but balance updates on this server should be completely independent from live game. come up with some new ideas

Posted by Faefellah

Posted by satori

take a look at oldschool runescape, but ignore their bad polled in updates (For example, the dragon spear special attack was extremely overpowered, but everybody voted no to nerfing it because every clan abused it and wanted to keep it in the game)

Bad example. I know very very little about runescape. I took a look at it years ago, but i didn't do much in it. I'm also not gonna go research an unfamiliar game for a point of reference. In short, i have no clue what you're talking about.

the entire content poll system is based off of oldschool runescape's, except it currently lacks an "abstain" option

there have been many debates about the OSRS system, but what the dev teams tend to do is come up with concepts for new content/weapons independently from the userbase, and then sort of show it off, and then do a poll for it.

having a group of experienced players/game developers in control of the updates may be better than a content polling system but it's not the worst thing ever

post rev. 1 by satori on 05-06-17, 10:47 am

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Link to MabiTimer: http://www.mediafire.com/file/8ap6a15d5iwe79a/MabiTimer_Setup.exe

the password on MediaFire can be found here: https://mabimods.net/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item165

post rev. 2 by satori on 03-15-17, 07:45 am

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Posted by Cyrene

Posted by steelra

General Fixes & Events

Well, I believe that the point of max durability being destroyed is due to how skills are trained, and how the majority of stats and damage come. They come from the base character, and in old mabinogi, due to its more player skill focused combat, a weapon is more of a resource than an actual part of your character. Very remniscent of games like Ultima Online, where you make your character and you work on your skills, but if you die, you lose your equipment. The mechanic in itself gives a bit more risk and reward to using a stronger more valuable weapon over a cheaper one like a fluted short sword. You then have to basically choose to use what you feel you can afford to repair or in fact replace. I'm running about 4 different swords right now because I cannot afford to replace my 222 broad with goddess on it, nor can I repair it, but I get along just fine because I made a decision to allow me to get around that fact.

It also allows for life skills to stay relevant after a long period of time. A persons amazing 222 broadsword may get too low and need to be replaced. Meaning hey, look at me and this fresh new broadsword that is x grade and now you want to throw your money at me, giving me a reason to continue building broadswords that are good.

Now for the weapons you can't craft, well, the point about not using what you can't afford to replace ties into this. You'll use that weapon if you feel that it's worth using, plus you have the option of egoing it, which is actually a lot better on this server since we only have special upgrades to 3, and you can also keep your weapon from ever losing dura.

Finally, I just want to bring up the topic of convenience. When bringing up convenience, more than the positive, you also have to consider what is negative. Will something be marginalized or made useless because this convenience option renders it useless. Will people still have a reason to make or buy mp pots if we raise mp regen further, how are skills like mana shield effected by this?
(Disclaimer, I'm not familiar with meditation numbers or inspiration, and the focus of this is not to show my opinion of these suggestions, just what I feel are questions which more people should ask and currently aren't asking.)

100% repairs should be available, the game was designed around them, and they were always in korea/japan afaik (and I think they still are?)

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the file that already comes with the client looks like this for anyone who cares to compare

http://pastebin.com/raw/vtZ8spGt

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Posted by SalTheThief

Sorry, I'm new to all of this. Is there another mod I need to get the translation working? I tried adding the directory on its own to no avail.

a lot of the translations are server side and need to be finished before it will be "working"

Posted at 03-16-17, 01:52 am Link | #

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i liked the dark purple one, the current pink one is too bright

what dark purple one?

Not sure if it was a modded theme or added post-g13

I have not played on G20~ mabi for a loong time so I would not know, maybe find a screenshot of it and it might jog my memory.

found the ui color, looks like this:

Posted at 03-16-17, 08:25 pm Link | #

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install abyss, turn multiclient to 1